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All Forum Posts by: Katie Lyon

Katie Lyon has started 11 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Best way to MARKET a sub-to deal?

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Hi @Katie Lyon,

Properties are typically still selling in Cape Coral right now to active buyers, even with elevated inventory. Aggressive pricing is necessary to achieve this, so it's important to ensure the property is realistically priced in line with market standards, which often is not necessarily what you're hoping to sell for. 

As for offering subject-to financing, this is something that can be advertised under 'seller financing' in our local MLS, and there's investors that search specifically for listings with that marked, so that should introduce your property to a new set of buyers that may not have considered it before. I would also include 'creative financing available' at the beginning of the listing description to capture everyone else looking on Zillow, etc

 Thanks @Stetson Miller

I think we're priced pretty well when looking at comps now, and we did one price reduction. Good to hear that inventory is still moving. Does the market there pick up more in the spring as other markets do? 

Post: Best way to MARKET a sub-to deal?

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I'm on the other side of the coin right now. I have a property that doesn't align with the rest of our portfolio's strategy and we are ready to sell it. It's in Cape Coral, which has almost 10 months of inventory. We are priced well, but no offers on the traditional market. We are open to a Subto deal but I'm unsure of the best way to get the property in front of investors. 

Where have you found subto deals before? Where is the best place to market them? 

Post: Collections or Small Claims Court?

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Yep. 

I don't know what area you are in, but generally just take them to Small Claims Court. Get the judgment and frequently the court personnel will instruct you on how you can collect. You may be able to get a levy against their bank account or file a wage garnishment without the need for going to collections. 


 Thanks!

Post: Collections or Small Claims Court?

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I'd first take it up with the eviction court and ask for a monetary judgment at that time. Then I'd turn it over to a collections agency. 


They have moved out as it was the end of their lease, so does that negate eviction court?

Post: Collections or Small Claims Court?

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Help! When a tenant is far past due on a balance (rent, late fees) do you first take it up with collections, or small claims court? 

Post: MTR Rental Arbitrage System

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Dee - I have 6 rental arbitrages for MTR and am working on a course/system. Message me ;) 


 Katie you will be popular when that system hits! I'm interested already!


 Thanks Rick! MTR arbitrage has been so huge for me and I've put so much into the system I've made! I'm excited to get it out there! 

Post: MTR Rental Arbitrage System

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Dee - I have 6 rental arbitrages for MTR and am working on a course/system. Message me ;) 

Post: Sell? Ride it out? What to do…

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Hey Katie, 

This doesn't sound ideal, and I'm sorry you are in that situation. 

I think your assessment is spot on, the cost and risk associated with Hurricane Ian have already put a significant dent in your finances, amounting to $10k out of pocket. With the potential for more storms predicted this summer, there's a genuine concern for further damage and financial loss. Selling the property would help you mitigate these risks and avoid additional costs. Your gut might be in the right place here.

If the current rental demand in the area is lower, it could be quite challenging to maintain consistent occupancy and rental income. By selling the property, you would be relieved of the responsibility of finding tenants and managing the property from a distance. This is the second reason why I'd sell too.

The Florida real estate market can be quite unpredictable, particularly given the current political climate. Selling now would allow you to take advantage of any value appreciation the property has experienced while avoiding potential market fluctuations and uncertainties. 

While furnishing the property and listing it as a short-term rental may seem like an option, your concerns about high insurance costs and the lack of nearby properties are valid. These factors can increase the risk involved and potentially lead to financial challenges if the short-term rental strategy doesn't pan out as expected.

Considering all these factors, selling the property could be a prudent decision to limit your financial exposure, reduce risk, and provide you with the flexibility to explore other investment opportunities. Based on all these points, it sounds like you already know what to do. I too would take the L and shift into preservation mode. Good luck with everything, I hope situations become more favorable for you. 


 Thanks so much. I appreciate your thoughtful reply!

Post: Sell? Ride it out? What to do…

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The backstory - we have an investment property in Cape Coral Florida. Right outside of ft Meyers. We have had it for one year and it renting right at about 1%. Hurricane Ian was not good to us and cost us about $10k out of pocket. 


Renter demand is lower down there right now. We can sell, and have it cost us about $30k total (value went up but fees, insurance, commissions, etc kill me). They are predicting more large storms this summer. My gut says swallow the loss and sell. The Florida market is wild particularly with politics right now. I could furnish it and STR but insurance is wild for that and we have no other properties close so if it doesn't work out we have all the furniture and nothing nearby.

Not enough important info.  What does "1%" mean in dollars?  How much total cash have you put into this property?

More numbers. Paid $536. Worth 550-560 now. After fees, commissions, etc would end up about -25k. Rents long term for 5k. Mortgage is 3300. I pay for lawn and pool which is about 150/month. Ian cost me about 9k.  


 Does that mortgage include property taxes and insurance, and is it a 30 year fixed? What was your downpayment?

Assuming yes to both first questions and you put 20% down ($107,200), and also assuming 15% of rents allocated to CAPEX/Maintenance/Vacancy, you're looking at a net $800/month profit and a 8.95% COC return (not inclusive of future appreciation, loan paydown, tax benefits if any).

Of that 15% allocated to CAPEX/Maintenance/Vacancy, say 10% is allocated to CAPEX/Maintenance. If so, that is $6000/year. 1.5years of that reserve buildup covers that Ian expense. Things like that happen, but as long as you are saving those reserves for unforeseen circumstances like hurricanes, you should be fine as long as you believe in the market fundamentals and want to hold long term.


Yes includes tax and insurance. Paid ~120k down. We also pay lawn pest and pool. Net after those and reserves is about 200-400/month. 

As a long term hold I think it makes sense. I just want more monthly cash flow 🤪

Post: Sell? Ride it out? What to do…

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Katie,

The question is what you think is the future of the Cape Coral FL area. Do you think it's going to bounce back and have the same rental potential that you had previously? I see that you're looking at the potential of doing a short term rental and that would not be good for you insurance wise from what you said, but did you consider medium term rental? Is there a draw in your area for corporate travel or visiting nurses or a college where I furnish rental could help you bridge through.

I know that the insurance market in general in Florida is going crazy especially with the risk of hurricanes. Is your house in a flooding path? I see that you were previously affected by hurricane Ian. In the end you're going to need to make the decision that will make you sleep best at night. From the tone of your post I don't think you're comfortable with Florida as a market relative to the insurance slash hurricane risk reward scenario.


 Good points. I’m very familiar with MTRs and have 3 of them. But this house is too big for nurses. Would be more for insurance but that’s a whole new game to me.