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All Forum Posts by: Karl Kauper

Karl Kauper has started 25 posts and replied 56 times.

Post: Laid-Off Tenant in Euclid, Ohio

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Jack Krusinski:

When my rental properties are in a situation like this, I make an effort to create a structured and aggressive payment plan to help tenants catch up. However, if they fail to meet any of the agreed-upon payments, I request that they vacate the property.

Great suggestion. Thanks.

Post: Total expenses for landlord in Sutton MA

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35

Good afternoon,

Could anyone help me to estimate my monthly expenses if I rent out my single-family house in Sutton, MA? I will be self-managing remotely (from NJ). Please note that I have 25 years of experience renting out apartments and houses in three other states, but I’ve never done so in MA, so I don’t have experience with local MA laws or vendor expenses. I know how much my property taxes will be, but what other expenses are there, and approximate cost? Please note: I will definitely be self-managing, so please don’t suggest that I hire a local PM. I am just looking for insight from local MA realtors, attorneys or landlords regarding what my typical monthly expenses (if any) will likely be (I don’t mean one-off expenses like roof repairs). Also, can I stipulate in the lease that the tenant has to maintain the lawn and shovel the driveway and walkways, or am I required to pay a vendor? If so, approximately how much will that cost? Or, can I get away with requiring the tenant to pay all expenses? 

Thanks for any local insight!!

Karl

Post: Laid-Off Tenant in Euclid, Ohio

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35

Good morning,

I’ve owned a MF in Euclid, Ohio for a few years but just recently started to self-manage it. I have one tenant behind on rent because he was laid off recently. What can I do to help him (and help me) for him to be in a position to be able to pay his rent? Any government programs available? Any other suggestions? Thanks.

- Karl

Post: Worst-Case Scenario Eviction - Massachusetts

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Karl Kauper:

I process nearly 1,000 applications per year for the last 15 years. Yet you're able to screen applications more effectively?

If you are more capable than a PM, why don't you know the answer to your question? Laura is a PM, she answered your question, and your response was to fire back that you can do a better job than a PM. Does that make sense?

A tenant could sneak past your screening with falsified applications that you can't catch. Once in, they could pay rent for a few months until you feel everything is perfect, which then greases the tracks for them to tear your life apart. They stop rent and communication. You file for eviction and they employ multiple delay tactics that extend your court case 3-6 months without batting an eye, all while not paying rent. When you finally get them on the ropes, they pack up and move out never to be seen again. You find the house completely trashed with missing appliances and cabinets, tenants were cooking meth, windows broken, etc. 6-8 months of unpaid rent, unpaid utilities, thousands to empty the abandoned property and trash, $50,000 to completely renovate the property and make it rentable again, plus all the time, energy, and stress along the way.

I would actually argue this is pretty common and not even the worst-case scenario. I've seen landlords held hostage for years by tenants who know how to manipulate the law.

On the other hand, sitting vacant costs you the mortgage, taxes, utilities, insurance, lawncare, and other expenses. If that's $25,000 a year, then two years of vacancy is about the same as a really, really bad renter. If you're as good as you claim to be, it should be easy to show that the rewards outweigh the risk.

Also, you say you screen 1,000 applications a year. That’s exactly the problem! You’re not processing the 1,000 applications for one landlord. You might process applications efficiently, but you’re focused on filling 2 or 3 hundred properties. You’re not 100% focused on mine the way I am. How could you possibly compete?

Post: Worst-Case Scenario Eviction - Massachusetts

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Karl Kauper:

I process nearly 1,000 applications per year for the last 15 years. Yet you're able to screen applications more effectively?

If you are more capable than a PM, why don't you know the answer to your question? Laura is a PM, she answered your question, and your response was to fire back that you can do a better job than a PM. Does that make sense?

A tenant could sneak past your screening with falsified applications that you can't catch. Once in, they could pay rent for a few months until you feel everything is perfect, which then greases the tracks for them to tear your life apart. They stop rent and communication. You file for eviction and they employ multiple delay tactics that extend your court case 3-6 months without batting an eye, all while not paying rent. When you finally get them on the ropes, they pack up and move out never to be seen again. You find the house completely trashed with missing appliances and cabinets, tenants were cooking meth, windows broken, etc. 6-8 months of unpaid rent, unpaid utilities, thousands to empty the abandoned property and trash, $50,000 to completely renovate the property and make it rentable again, plus all the time, energy, and stress along the way.

I would actually argue this is pretty common and not even the worst-case scenario. I've seen landlords held hostage for years by tenants who know how to manipulate the law.

On the other hand, sitting vacant costs you the mortgage, taxes, utilities, insurance, lawncare, and other expenses. If that's $25,000 a year, then two years of vacancy is about the same as a really, really bad renter. If you're as good as you claim to be, it should be easy to show that the rewards outweigh the risk.

If you sign a lease with a nursery school teacher and CPA with credit scores of 800+ with a 3-year-old, what’s the likelihood that they will suddenly start cooking meth and destroying your property? 

My most recent experience with a PM company: I had a PM in Ohio who told me for 10 months that they couldn’t understand why my apartments were not renting (I had 5 vacancies in my building at that point, one of which had been vacant for the full 10 months). I then took over the entire marketing and leasing process directly, flying out from NJ to show the units. I filled the building in a matter of weeks. Had I done that 10 months earlier, I would have saved tens of thousands of dollars, despite the flight costs. This is probably (hopefully) the worst case PM scenario, but, again, no PM is 100% invested in your property and your success — only you are.

Post: Worst-Case Scenario Eviction - Massachusetts

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Laura Stayton:
Quote from @Karl Kauper:

For a 3-bed, 2-bath house in Sutton, MA (good school system), if I screen very carefully (high credit score, work history, no evictions, etc.), please describe for me the worst-case scenario for an eviction process if the tenant refuses to leave at the end of a lease term (assuming I do everything properly according to MA laws)?

I own such a house with a few other people, but, for reasons I won’t go into here, we cannot sell the house for several years. I want to rent it out instead of allowing it to sit vacant, but the other owners are hesitant to rent because of fears of dealing with potentially difficult tenants. So, this is why I’m asking you to describe for me the worst-case scenario. In other words, I want to make the argument that even the worst-case scenario is better than allowing the house to sit vacant for several years while meanwhile paying out-of-pocket for taxes, minimal heat, lawn care, etc. Easy argument to make, isn’t it? Thanks!

Worst case (IMO) - Tenants move in and tear up the place and don't pay.  Evictions take months here in DE so you could potentially lose out on 4 months rent or so and have to rehab the house.  You have to know the landlord tenant code regarding proper notices etc.  Or they could sue you for multiple reasons. 
Your best bet would be to hire a good property manager who screens well and knows what they're doing and you should be able to get good income over a few years.
With respect to hiring a PM, I respectfully but very strongly disagree. In my 20+ years as a landlord in three different states, it’s my experience that the owner can screen more effectively and find tenants way more quickly. I assume the reason is that the owner is 100% focused on their own property whereas the PM is only partially focused on it because of other clients.

Post: Worst-Case Scenario Eviction - Massachusetts

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35

For a 3-bed, 2-bath house in Sutton, MA (good school system), if I screen very carefully (high credit score, work history, no evictions, etc.), please describe for me the worst-case scenario for an eviction process if the tenant refuses to leave at the end of a lease term (assuming I do everything properly according to MA laws)?

I own such a house with a few other people, but, for reasons I won’t go into here, we cannot sell the house for several years. I want to rent it out instead of allowing it to sit vacant, but the other owners are hesitant to rent because of fears of dealing with potentially difficult tenants. So, this is why I’m asking you to describe for me the worst-case scenario. In other words, I want to make the argument that even the worst-case scenario is better than allowing the house to sit vacant for several years while meanwhile paying out-of-pocket for taxes, minimal heat, lawn care, etc. Easy argument to make, isn’t it? Thanks!

Post: Evictions in Worcester, Massachusetts Area

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Douglas Snook:

Yes it can take several months to evict. If the lease is ending be sure you have given the proper notice of non-renewal of the lease. If not, the lease might renewal for another term (usually a year) or it may go to a month to month tenancy. You need to know what your lease says.

You would be bringing a no fault eviction. Once you have them served and file the papers with the court, the court will assign a First Tier Hearing - basically a mediation session where hopefully you are able to work out a move out date certain (with the tenant paying use and occupancy). Then if at the end of whatever time you have agreed upon, if the tenant still has not left, you can get the Execution to move them out.

There are programs out there that may assist the low income tenant with first last and security as well as some moving expenses at a new apartment.


 Thanks. We will definitely not be renting to low income tenants. To be clear, we inherited the house, but there is a complication that prevents us from being able to sell it for a few years, but we will eventually sell. In the meantime, we are considering renting it out instead of letting it sit vacant. However, I need to convince my brothers that renting it out is a better option than letting it sit vacant, so I need information about the eviction process. If we do everything correctly and we screen carefully (credit check, employment verification, etc.), what would be the worst-case scenario? Would the worst-case scenario definitely be better than letting it sit vacant for 3 to 5 years?

Post: Evictions in Worcester, Massachusetts Area

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Karl Kauper:
Quote from @Brian J Allen:

@Karl Kauper Sadly MA is a very tenant friendly state.  The tenants can bind you up for a long time.  And it is difficult for you to refuse to take their rent, as there are many agencies that will pay up to $10k in back rent and rent moving forward.  Not sure if that is what you are looking for.  I just served a 30 day notice in Millbury (I live in Sutton but my rental is in Millbury) and I am hoping that the $4k I offered the tenants to actually move out on time is enough for them to find somewhere to go.  Sadly there is so little inventory that many are simply trying to last as long as possible and wait for the constable to tell them that the moving trucks are here for them.  They often don't have enough $ to take their stuff out.  Whatever you do, please make sure that you get something signed saying that are completely gone and have no claim to any possessions they left behind.  I had a client who thought they did the eviction correctly, and ended up in court as one of the occupants who had moved 3 months earlier said her stuff (including 3 rollex watches) was thrown out.  It cost him another 3 months before he could start work turning the unit.  Best of luck.  DM if you have any additional questions.


Thanks for the feedback! I DM’ed you a follow-up.

Post: Evictions in Worcester, Massachusetts Area

Karl KauperPosted
  • Investor
  • Tinton Falls, NJ
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Brian J Allen:

@Karl Kauper Sadly MA is a very tenant friendly state.  The tenants can bind you up for a long time.  And it is difficult for you to refuse to take their rent, as there are many agencies that will pay up to $10k in back rent and rent moving forward.  Not sure if that is what you are looking for.  I just served a 30 day notice in Millbury (I live in Sutton but my rental is in Millbury) and I am hoping that the $4k I offered the tenants to actually move out on time is enough for them to find somewhere to go.  Sadly there is so little inventory that many are simply trying to last as long as possible and wait for the constable to tell them that the moving trucks are here for them.  They often don't have enough $ to take their stuff out.  Whatever you do, please make sure that you get something signed saying that are completely gone and have no claim to any possessions they left behind.  I had a client who thought they did the eviction correctly, and ended up in court as one of the occupants who had moved 3 months earlier said her stuff (including 3 rollex watches) was thrown out.  It cost him another 3 months before he could start work turning the unit.  Best of luck.  DM if you have any additional questions.