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All Forum Posts by: Kai Soremekun

Kai Soremekun has started 3 posts and replied 21 times.

Thanks so much for your thoughts.
@Allen Duan sounds like we are on similar paths. I'm never going to complain about having low rent but it does boggle the mind a bit and kind of humble you when you go out into the market to buy something. lol
Would love to stay in touch and definitely learn more about how to do MTRs.
Love all your suggestions.

@Sherril Coonfield thanks for your thoughts and offer of help.

I decided to pass on this property after digging into what the deal was with the occupied unit.
A family of five has been in there for 15 years and not interested in being given a relocation fee for obvious reasons.
Plus, not sure how this could be, but the second unit is only 500 sq ft. wondering what that small a 2b/1b unit looks like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Every situation helps me learn more.

Onwards...

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My first time trying to analyze a deal... be gentle. :)

I actually really like this property. I've been looking at properties since last April.  This is the first one I'm digging on.
4b/2b duplex + basement
Cannot legally rent out basement as live-in space, has low ceilings although weirdly there's a bathroom down there. It is raw, unfinished. Kind of weird and unusual in LA. Thought, with minimal clean up, maybe I could rent out to peeps for storage. Did not calculate this in my numbers.
detached 2 car garage (possible ADU?)
1 unit delivered vacant comes with the garage (move-in ready, could be updated a bit but totally livable as-is)
other unit under market rent $975/mo no parking

A nice bit of backyard with three fruit trees

My scenario:

I live in Hollywood and would like to stay local despite this being a crazy friendly tenant state.
I'm leaning towards rentvesting because I live in a rent stabilized huge 1b/1b, pay $590/mo and I love my neighborhood.
I've also managed the building I live in for the last 8 years so have experience and would manage the duplex myself. But did put something in the calculator for managing anyway.

I have 500k.
I'm an artist and could not get approved for a traditional loan. (last year was not good income wise except for getting the 500k :)
Have great credit score... teetering on 800

Found a low doc loan product requires 30% down if primary resident, 35% if investment + 24 month reserves. Current rate 6.5% | 6.375% if I do auto payments with their bank.
No penalty for refinancing down the road.

I eventually want to move my mom down (maybe in two years) and into one of the units but I can't charge her market rent. Fixed income, coming from Canada where exchange rate is going to be brutal.
Will probably ask my 2 brothers to contribute but no guarantees there.

So the numbers will become worse unless the other unit becomes vacant.
I can cover what's left on the mortgage for a couple of years with leftovers from my 500k barring a major disaster.  My income should increase to help with that too.
But it's LA so cash flowing out the gate seems challenging especially when looking for a neighborhood you feel comfortable putting your 80+ year old mom in and that is reasonably close to me in Hollywood.

I had a really positive emotional response to this property.  First time since I've started looking at properties. But I know you can't make business decisions based on that. 

Other thoughts wondering about mid-term airbnb or making it my primary residence while still keeping my apartment and doing short term airbnb's where I can go stay at my "office" when it's rented out. But not sure I'm going to enjoy the labor of that. Of course this is just until my mom arrives but looking at it as an alternative to doing am eventual tenant relocation.

Open to any thoughts, creative ideas on this or in general given my scenario.
I have never owned real estate... so I'm a tad freaked out.
I'm sure I'll learn a lot from any input offered.

Would also love to meet any local real estate agents who have personally invested in small multi-families in Los Angeles.


And finally...
I know there will be some, given my cash, who recommend out of state but I don't think I'm emotionally up for that as a first investment especially as I prepare to care for my mom in her final years.
And I have no interest in leaving Cali


Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Quote from @Moris Reyes:

@Kai Soremekun

There’s only 3 ways in stopping a foreclosure.

Filing for bankruptcy 13

Loan modification

filing a lawsuit

I have helped many avoid foreclosure by using the BK and loan mod method simultaneously. These solutions bring sub2 or wraparound opportunities that are win win for both parties involved.


 Oh thanks.  Good to know.  I'm still working on getting in contact with her.  I'm not the greatest at approaching people.  The auction got postponed until January so we'll see.

Do you have a recommendation for where to learn more about the two things you mentioned? sub2 and wraparound?

Post: Foreclosure - Second Mortgage

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Re:
You’re right, but for every horror, there are some very simple foreclosure’s. And even the horrors have potential knowing how to deal with them.

@John Slater
Yes! That's why I keep looking. I'm still learning. Have only been looking at foreclosures since July.

What do you mean by mostly visible from a pre-lim?
Buying a second with a 1st in play, and other liens against the property are mostly visible from a pre-lim.

Great to know you can negotiate things like the IRS lien and encouraged that you laugh even with being in a state that has hidden challenges. :)

Post: Foreclosure - Second Mortgage

Kai SoremekunPosted
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I will add to what to look out for as I've been researching foreclosure properties. It probably differs based on state.  I'm in CA

I have found that when I dig into foreclosures the financial history of the owners often has other skeletons.  This makes sense if you've chosen to stop paying a mortgage you're probably in financial distress and ignoring other financial obligations. I've started to be a little leery if the only thing funky with their finances is the foreclosure.  I think... what is hidden? Or what am I missing?

Here are some examples of financial obligations you may be responsible for:

Property taxes (I can go on the property tax portal for the state but that doesn't always tell the whole picture) As often the amount shown doesn't include penalties and interest that may have been accumulating since they defaulted.

Same for State taxes.  Not sure how this works in other states but in California delinquent state income taxes where a lien has been put on the property must be paid off to clear the title. Same situation penalties and interest will probably not be reflected in the amount you find in the county recorder's office records.

IRS tax liens on the property.  The IRS has 120 days from the day of the auction to seize the property.  They rarely do BUT you don't want to do any rehab of the property until that 120 days has passed just in case.  If they do seize the property, they will reimburse you what you paid for the property plus some interest and things like property taxes  you may have paid but they will not reimburse for improvements made to the property.  This only matters if you're planning to do a quick fix and flip otherwise this usually goes away.

As soon as you win the auction immediately contact the trustee to make sure they have properly notified any junior lien holders of the foreclosed property.  If they've failed to do this properly the owner of the property can file a lawsuit and put a wrench in your plans while your money sits with the trustee company as the suit travels through the court system.  If you do this the day of the auction and you find issues you may be able to null the auction before the trustee disperses funds. At this point you should have had a title company do a title search on the property and you want to compare what you found with what the trustee has record of.

I think that's all I've learned so far.  I feel like every time I find another interesting property I learn something new.

I came across a BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. If there is such a thing as an A++ neighborhood the area this property is in would be it.
Other properties in the area much smaller (1000sq ft smaller, way less land) have recently sold for 3.6m.  The property I found sold at auction for 241k!! California allows eligible bidders to bid post auction so I decided to do research on the property. OH BOY!!!
After diving into the property I learned:
It was a second that foreclosed.  The first is a 1 million dollar mortgage. I assume they haven't paid much if anything on it. They bought this house during the 2007 craziness.  I can't find a through line (as far as transfer of deed) for the first mortgage only the second so no idea what's happening with it. The company who initiated the first and second mortgages (they were executed on the same day) went out of business during the housing crash.
They owe 400k in state income taxes.  Have literally not paid state taxes since they bought the property in 2007.
They haven't paid property taxes in two years.  Add another 85k
House was abandoned in the middle of a reno. The only plus is no one is occupying the property and there's a roof and walls so not exposed to the elements.
Also discovered they had done renovations without permits which means there could be work that needs to be redone.  The city is definitely aware of this property given the number of cases I found had been opened on this property.

So including renovations you're looking at probably 2 million to clean everything up. NOT 241K and just some minor cosmetic renovations.

Researching this property it feels like the owners knew what they were doing.  They haven't paid state taxes and someone is going to pay off 400k of taxes for them to get this property.
They don't have any IRS liens as those would stick with them and not the property. If you want to live in a multi-million dollar home for a few years and then leave without any repercussions besides your credit being jacked.  Do what they did.

Anyway, I share this as an example of what can happen if you don't do your due diligence with a foreclosure.  

Final note: It is difficult to get title insurance on a foreclosure, so know if things show up post auction you will most likely be on the hook for them.


Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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@Ray Johnson

What did you mean when you said "she has a problem with a simple and easy solution."?

Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Don't try to save the world. Make sure this situation works for you financially. What's the house worth? What are the Rehab costs? Neighborhood comps? Etc?


 lol.  I hear you.  I am a deeply compassionate person and need to balance that with business.  But I'm also moved to do business in a thoughtful way so we'll see what happens.  At the very least I'm going to try and reach her to give her a little bit of guidance like if the house does go to auction make sure she's aware she has to file to receive any overages.

Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Quote from @Ray Johnson:

@Kai Soremekun Isn't this what those reverse mortgages for seniors is all about?

Not sure which state the property is in so the $100k equity loan would mean different scenarios are in place depending on the location. If it's in Los Angeles where the house may be worth $900K she has a problem with a simple and easy solution.

If the property is in one of the cheap Midwest, or South States, the $100K equity loan may have less value in an overall deal.


Now that you mention it, it could be.  

The property is in Los Angeles. I'm going to try and reach out to her today and see if she's open to talking.  I'm most interested in a win-win that would allow her to stay in her home as Jay mentioned above.

Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Kai Soremekun:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
If the house is paid off is this a tax sale ?  not a mortgage / sheriffs sale ?  Keep in mind if it has a lot of equity most likely there will be bidders and she will get everything above what is owed  ( its called an overage).. many times that is far better for these folks than taking a low ball from an investor.

It's an equity loan that got taken out on the home after it was paid off.

Yes, after writing my post I realized she may get a decent penny from the auction.  Highly likely it could be more than I can offer her. I will just watch it and see how it goes.

I found out she's 79 so I'm almost certain she's attached to the house.  Too bad she doesn't have someone to help her sell it.
It's crazy to lose a house with so much equity in it. :(


I have done this twice in my career..  I have sat down with the owner in this scenario.. paid off their underlying and gave them a life estate.  depending on the deal and the equity and of course your personal financial position ( IE many investors dont have the means to invest money with no return for an extended period of time.)  But if the numbers work it could be a win win.

One I did in portland we paid off 80k  she lived in the house for about 8 or 9 years.  I was able to build 3 homes on that lot and sold for over1.6 mil and well never really ran the numbers but we did pretty good.  And she got to live the rest of her life with no stress.
That just makes me want to cry. What a way to be of service. I have the meaas to pay off whatever she owes but I’m someone who doesn’t make a lot of money but was gifted a chunk of change.

May I DM you to talk about the specifics of what you did?

Post: Elderly Woman Being Foreclosed On

Kai SoremekunPosted
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
If the house is paid off is this a tax sale ?  not a mortgage / sheriffs sale ?  Keep in mind if it has a lot of equity most likely there will be bidders and she will get everything above what is owed  ( its called an overage).. many times that is far better for these folks than taking a low ball from an investor.

It's an equity loan that got taken out on the home after it was paid off.

Yes, after writing my post I realized she may get a decent penny from the auction.  Highly likely it could be more than I can offer her. I will just watch it and see how it goes.

I found out she's 79 so I'm almost certain she's attached to the house.  Too bad she doesn't have someone to help her sell it.
It's crazy to lose a house with so much equity in it. :(