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All Forum Posts by: Michelle S.

Michelle S. has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Too good to be true?

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
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Hi @Mitch Stanley:

Thanks for the suggestions. They are very good advice. We'll use this property as an educational opportunity to get our feet wet. We don't necessarily have to buy it in the end. It'll be interesting to get involved in the real life ins and outs of the mf investment.

Post: Too good to be true?

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0
Hi @Joel Owens:
Thanks for the advice. Yes, we definitely will be looking at the south as we'll be moving south in a few years. For our first property, we are looking somewhere we can easily get to if needed.

We plan to use a broker now. What questions do you think we should ask to help screen for a good agent? 

I'm also concerned about the truth of the seller's numbers. But how can I get to the bottom of the real numbers? Will the detailed tenant roll, signed lease agreements, and rent payment status, etc over past 12-24 months help?

Post: Too good to be true?

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0

We have our eyes on an out of state multifamily 80 units property right under $2 mil. The numbers look very good, meeting the 2% rule. The location is good, safe, but the schools are bad. The seller is putting in an call for offers, though the property seems to be on the market for quite a while(almost half an year judging from the snow covered ground pictures).

So what could be the pitfalls for such a seemingly good deal? The building is about 65 years old, and at least one building has water leaking issues.

We had the first exchange of emails with the listing agent. Should we still consider a buyers agent in such case? If we do get an agent, would that be considered as a negative by the seller because of added commission cost so as to lower our chance of further reducing prices? Me and my partners are new to multifamily REI.

Post: LLC

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0

Thanks a lot, Joel. Sorry it took me a while to respond. I'll keep your advice in mind.

Post: LLC

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0
@Hattie Dizmond:
Thanks a lot for the info,  Hattie. We are looking at properties in TX as well, too. So if we end up with something in TX, it'll be a big bonus to form an LLC there.

Post: LLC

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0
 @Joel Owens:

Thanks for the great info,  Joel.  So we don't have to be in a great rush to set up an entity so we can focus on property research right now instead. 

Yes we will have to discuss extensively to draft an operating agreement since it's not just me and my husband. The separate tax ids info is great to know. Would never have thought of that. Will probably ask more later in regard to LLCs setup as we get close to that. 

We are all over the board as to what property to get. Our friends started out very ambitious and wanted to look at 200 to 300 units range to take advantage of economy of scale. The wife had a fair amount of successes with SFH or one unit apts over past decade in Australia. She just moved to the US. The rest three of us has almost zero experience In RE investment. Her idea is to bring in silent partners for financing. 

We are not quite comfortable with starting out so big, and not confident that we will be able to get the fund we need with our background even with what we think a killer deal. So we have kind of convinced her to look into anything under $2million at the moment while keep our minds open for big deals as well. 

I am a numbers person. I try to follow the 50% and 2% rules, but find those deals are hard to come by unless in a war zone. So not sure how strict we should follow these guidelines. Our partner seems to be more focused on property conditions that are renovated or in good repair. 

Post: LLC

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
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Thanks for the input, Jesse. Will definitely look into the foreign company option. I just started out the research, and some states seem to charge a hefty price for out of state LLCs. 

Also thanks for the book recommendation. Will check that out too. 


Originally posted by @Jesse Waters:

There are some states such as Nevada that offer better LLC benefits than others. From what I have experienced you can use a LLC from any state to do business in any other state, you usually have to register with that state's Secretary of State as a foreign company. I do most of my work in SC & have a SC LLC.

Since you seem to have some time & are starting out, I would give Garrett Sutton's book "Loopholes of Real Estate" a read. He covers most the basics of LLC's, how to structure your partnership & how to protect you assets.

Best of Luck!

JW

Post: LLC

Michelle S.Posted
  • Uniondale, NY
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 0

My husband and I and another couple are looking to buy some commercial multifamily properties. We are wondering when is the time we should form our LLC: before signing the contract, at the closing, or even after the purchase? We don't know which state we are buying from yet. Thanks!