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All Forum Posts by: Justin Glass

Justin Glass has started 6 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Andrew Davis 

I guess what I'm having trouble getting past is that even though I have a 10% COC right now (which is better than I have ever done in the stock market lol), is that even if I didn't increase my rent from 8000 (which I will, but make the calculating easier) in 5 years my COC will be 25%. Then in 9 years my COC will be 100% and then infinite every year after. I know if I stopped right there and didn't buy another property my portfolio would not grow anymore, but as an individual property(not considering refi and buying more properties) does this deal make sense? Not including my rent and appreciation increase.

This is a great place to learn, and I appreciate anyone's input.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Jesse T. 

I don't see the land going down in value at all. The real estate crash didn't real affect property that I owned very much because it is recreation. It is not in a development area.  I don't forsee it doubling in price or anything but the "rent" could easily double in price, for several reasons.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Andrew Davis @Andrew Syrios 

That is some pretty creative financing. I have never thought about anything like that. There are not enough available properties, that meet the criteria, to make a lot of monthly cash flow by financing it. The lease would pay the note in all my circumstances, and that makes for a good 10 year plan. However, its a place for me to put some money and I really never liked owing anybody money anyway. Guess that's the dave ramsey side of me lol. You guys definitely have my wheels turning about some other types of investments though. From my stand point I love hunting so this is as close as I can get to hunting for a living!

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Jim Brown 

One of the properties I have I do lease to a local farmer, and do get an annual return on that. I also agree the more crops I have the better the hunting is. I usually let my hunters plant their own impoundments, usually a mix of corn, soybeans, millet and milo.

@Cal C. 

Good advice. These smaller properties are more scarce and have to be in the right place because of their size and have to have other obvious physical properties. There are a lot more larger properties that I will fix up in the same way and flip. I currently have 286 acres, 343 acres, and 230 acres that have waterfowl impoundments that are some projects to flip.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Andrew Davis 

Also wouldn't my ROE be

8000 per year/150k equity 5.3%

10000 per year/150k equity 6.6%

ROI 10000 per year/80k invested 12.5%

Are these not good numbers? Pardon my ignorance, A lot of these mathematics are relatively new to me. In the past I have just known that I have made more than I spent,(jokingly of course) but seriously in the past year and a half I have started following bigger pockets and paying more attention to things of this nature.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

@Harry Asnien 

I make all my hunting clubs carry insurance as part of the lease. They add me on as additionally insured. Cost of the insurance is about $200-250 per year.

@Andrew Davis @Jay Hinrichs 

You guys are a lot smarter than I am when it comes to the mathematics of these investments for sure. When I flip larger properties on average I make around 25% return for a minimum and the "sky is the limit" on the max lol. Those are my bread and butter and how I make my living. I take that profit to live and invest in properties like these instead of rent houses, for the lack of maintenance that they have.

As long as the numbers work out I can "get my money back" in around 8 years. I figured these were good investments and a place to put money rather than the bank, I enjoy the properties because they are hunting properties which is what I love to do and the return is very passive. I also always have the opportunity to sale and cash in at any time I may need the money.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

The rental estimate is correct because I have other properties similar to this one already leased. I like the fact that no one calls me and tells me they need a new water heater or that their toilet is stopped up, because the properties are maintenance free once they are rented. This is what I do for a living so I guess a simple answer would be that I would "live" off of the money should I sale. Most properties are paid for in cash as well. Just wondering what is better, to flip properties like this or lease them long term.

Post: Should I hold these properties long term or cash in now?

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

These properties are probably different than 98% of people on here deal with, but it is my line of business and has been for a long time. Hunting property. I buy, sale and hold, property that is used for hunting and recreation from 30 to 1000 acres, sometimes vacant land I improve, sometimes I build cabins, etc. a lot of different scenarios. For the sake of time I will tell you about a recent scenario. I have a few deals like this one and my instinct is to go long term instead of flipping. 

I bought 60 acres, for $60k, of vacant land unimproved to turn into a duck hunting property. It has the right terrain and geography. I built a levy with a bulldozer to hold water for the waterfowl that cost $6000 and put in an irrigation well, for $12000, to guarantee water year to year. With another couple of small things I have $80K in the property. I can easily lease this property for $8000 a year increasing to $10000 within a couple of years. Once the property is leased it is maintenance free the only thing I have to pay are the taxes, which are about $150 a year. The rent goes up every year and the property appreciates. HOWEVER, I could sale the property $150k yielding and gross profit of $70k. 

This is where I yield to the experts. Should I keep the virtually passive income property? Or since there is an 87% return instantly, should I sell? Thanks guys I await your comments and advice.

Post: Carrying the note

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

Wow Dion, first off thank you so much for taking the time to right that and thanks for being so informative. You seem to be a very smart and educated man! There is a lot of good stuff to take out of that.

Post: Carrying the note

Justin GlassPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • De Kalb, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 16

Thanks guys. I have one property at the moment that I have a 5 year balloon and I feel that that is a good way to do it. To me it provides protection for rising interest rates. A couple other things I wanted to touch on is that I have a lawyer that is a good friend that prepares all of my documents. Also getting one of these properties back over time, I feel like would be a win win situation because I have all the payments and well as the down payment. The property is paid off so I don't have to pay monthly payments if it is not "occupied". To me, it seems like a great investment. Since I have less in the place than I am selling it for at 8% I usually average around 14% on my money and have one that I make around 25% interest on my money.