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All Forum Posts by: Justin Carter

Justin Carter has started 13 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Increase in Property Tax Bills

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

@Travis Biziorek thank you, sir. This is helpful. I will let you know how things shake out. 

Post: Increase in Property Tax Bills

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:
Quote from @Justin Carter:
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

I've heard a lot of complaints about it this year. For a baseline, I own 12-doors in Detroit but I also have a couple hundred clients I've helped buy rentals there over the last couple years.

Everyone seems to be complaining about higher property taxes. The reality is, you should be pulling the current SEV for any new acquisition and doing your property tax calculations based on that figure before buying. I do this for every single client.

But even that is not bulletproof and I've seen new adjustments going 5-10% higher than that.

You can appeal property tax assessments, and I've done so with a lot of success in the past. But it's best if you have done some significant rehab to the property (at least that's my experience. 

All that said, you shouldn't be seeing anything close to a 2x in expected property taxes unless you completely fumbled the ball on pulling the current SEV before purchase.

A lot of people do their numbers based on what the current owner is paying or what Zillow shows. This is a huge mistake, and it's where most people get into trouble.


Thank you for your response Travis. I had anticipated the taxable value increasing based on my math, I just didn't think it would increase by 45%! 


When you say, "based on my math"... what was your math based on?

If you weren't pulling the current SEV and using the online property tax estimation calculator then it's just pulling numbers out of thin air. 

Based on the 45% figure it sounds like you were making the common mistake most people make and not doing it that way.

I'm not faulting you, just trying to clear things up for others. Property taxes in Detroit don't just jump 45% out of nowhere. They can move like that when they become uncapped, but it's pretty easy to get within about 5% of what that uncapped value will be before purchasing.


 No worries at all..I appreciate the dialogue! 

So the assessed value and SEV value for this one was $38,400 while the tax value was only $31,500. When I ran my tax calculation, I took the SEV value ($38,400) and assumed a 5% increase to that which came out to $40,320 (28% higher than the the taxable value). The new assessed and taxable value for 2025 actually came out to $45,700 which was 13% higher than my assumption ($40,320) and 45% higher than the current table value ($31,500). I just wasn't expecting such a steep increase but maybe it makes sense considering I paid $105K for the house which was significantly higher than what the investor bought it for (he paid $46k before renovations, etc). 

Do you suggest that I try to appeal the taxes? Not sure how much luck I will have, though. It's probably worth a try. 

Post: Increase in Property Tax Bills

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

I've heard a lot of complaints about it this year. For a baseline, I own 12-doors in Detroit but I also have a couple hundred clients I've helped buy rentals there over the last couple years.

Everyone seems to be complaining about higher property taxes. The reality is, you should be pulling the current SEV for any new acquisition and doing your property tax calculations based on that figure before buying. I do this for every single client.

But even that is not bulletproof and I've seen new adjustments going 5-10% higher than that.

You can appeal property tax assessments, and I've done so with a lot of success in the past. But it's best if you have done some significant rehab to the property (at least that's my experience. 

All that said, you shouldn't be seeing anything close to a 2x in expected property taxes unless you completely fumbled the ball on pulling the current SEV before purchase.

A lot of people do their numbers based on what the current owner is paying or what Zillow shows. This is a huge mistake, and it's where most people get into trouble.


Thank you for your response Travis. I had anticipated the taxable value increasing based on my math, I just didn't think it would increase by 45%! 

Post: Increase in Property Tax Bills

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Is anyone that invests in Detroit and Warren, MI also experiencing a significant increase in their taxable values? 

Granted, I acquired 2 properties in these markets in 2024 and so I am aware that a sale will prompt a re-assessment, but I am a bit surprised to see the assessment values nearly double, which will result in a significant increase in my tax liability. Hard to cash flow when your tax bill doubles!   

Curious if anyone else has experienced the same thing and if they'd have any luck with the appeal process? 

Post: Property Inspection Brick Concerns

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

House is only $130K. I think I am going to pull out. 

Post: Property Inspection Brick Concerns

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Justin Carter

Walk away

The stepped cracks typically mean differential settlement in the foundation which can start to get very expensive

If this is a $500k house then the cost could be justified but if it is a $100k or less house it will end up a money pit


Post: Property Inspection Brick Concerns

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Appreciate your advice. I’m considering hiring a mason or a structural engineer to come take a look. Based on the above pictures, would you walk away from this deal? I know there are a ton of other factors to consider, but just wondering how often you guys consider the condition of the brick when making an investment decision. It doesn’t look THAT BAD but I am not a mason professional. 

Post: Property Inspection Brick Concerns

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Hey guys! Got an inspection done on a property and the inspector noted deterioration in certain areas of the brick. This looks like brick veneer from my perspective but I could be wrong. 

Interested in everyone’s thoughts on this one. Does this look like it could potentially be related to foundation issues OR maybe just water damage? Would you allow this to deter you from purchasing? Inspector suggested it’s a big concern but I can’t tell. 

The below pictures are mainly the only areas where the brick is affected. Also on the chimney as well. 

Post: Duplex Opportunity in SE Washington, DC - Pennsylvania Ave/Minnesota Ave

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Thank you. Out of curiosity, do you have a view on the area in general? Would you consider it to be one of the areas of SE that will appreciate faster than others due to its close proximity to Capitol Hill, Anacostia, etc?

Post: Duplex Opportunity in SE Washington, DC - Pennsylvania Ave/Minnesota Ave

Justin CarterPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Russell - your insight was very helpful! I also looked at a few rent comps in the area and I agree with your sentiments on the rents. I’m struggling to justify the $799K purchase price on the earnings potential for this one. One of the owners is listing the 3 Br for rent at $3,600 which is ridiculously high! It’s been sitting for about 50 days…

If I were to move forward, the strategy here would have to be to house hack to reduce my living expense (vs living in the navy yard area now) and I’d have to live in the smaller unit to try and make this make sense. But agreed that the 2 Br is very small - the 2nd bedroom feels more like an office/ den.


May keep looking.