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All Forum Posts by: Justin Brin

Justin Brin has started 28 posts and replied 159 times.

Post: First time investor under contract looking to trade my IT work for your mentorship

Justin BrinPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Eric Benz:
Quote from @Justin Brin:
Quote from @Eric Benz:

I’m a first time real estate investor under contract to purchase a duplex in the Kansas City mo area. It closes on 11/8 and will be a long term rental. I’ve done a lot of research and think I have a basic handle on everything given that I’m new. I also know I’m bound to make a lot of mistakes. 

im looking for someone with long term rental experience in the area who can give me advice and I can bounce ideas off. For example:

Advice for taking over an existing lease?

Is turbotenant good software for what im trying to do?

Advice for finding a tenant and marketing my listing, etc.

Will you be living in the duplex. If not do you live near it?
I do not use any software for managing my real estate. I don't think you will need software for just 1-2 units.
I think software will help you only if you have lots of properties.
What class area is your duplex?
I believe in buying in good areas and if the unit doesn't not look the best then before renting out fix it up to make it look nice (no need to spend much just the minimum to make it clean, neat and nice).
If you want many people to see your rental ad then post it in all listing websites in your area (Like Zillow, Hot pads, apartments.com etc.).

Make sure the pics look nice and neat.

Thank you. I’ll answer your questions below. 


I live 35 mins away from the duplex. 

Appreciate the input on the software. How do you accept rent? I want to accept it electronically in a way that prevents partial payments.

It’s in a class c neighborhood

Appreciate all the additional input as well

I guess it makes sense you can set up ACH payments and this way the payments are automated and you can make sure they pay on time. I didn't yet use that software for payments. How much they charge you?

How the area of the duplex looks? What condition is the duplex in?

Post: Top location for long distance investing?

Justin BrinPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Bruce Lynn:
Quote from @Justin Brin:

Here is a list of 17 metros in the US that have population larger than 900k and median house price is below 400k:

Take that a little further with job growth, wage growth, and population growth.  At least 1/2 the cities on that list are dying cities.  Can you make money there, probably.  It is a good long term play?  I doubt it.   When some giant % of the houses in places like Flint MI are vacant, I don't think that outcome will be good for many of the investors in that town.


Where is a good source of data for job growth and wage growth? 

Post: First time investor under contract looking to trade my IT work for your mentorship

Justin BrinPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Eric Benz:

I’m a first time real estate investor under contract to purchase a duplex in the Kansas City mo area. It closes on 11/8 and will be a long term rental. I’ve done a lot of research and think I have a basic handle on everything given that I’m new. I also know I’m bound to make a lot of mistakes. 

im looking for someone with long term rental experience in the area who can give me advice and I can bounce ideas off. For example:

Advice for taking over an existing lease?

Is turbotenant good software for what im trying to do?

Advice for finding a tenant and marketing my listing, etc.

Will you be living in the duplex. If not do you live near it?
I do not use any software for managing my real estate. I don't think you will need software for just 1-2 units.
I think software will help you only if you have lots of properties.
What class area is your duplex?
I believe in buying in good areas and if the unit doesn't not look the best then before renting out fix it up to make it look nice (no need to spend much just the minimum to make it clean, neat and nice).
If you want many people to see your rental ad then post it in all listing websites in your area (Like Zillow, Hot pads, apartments.com etc.).

Make sure the pics look nice and neat.

Post: New investor looking to get started- what would you do?

Justin BrinPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 159
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Quote from @Chance Covan:

New to BP but looking to get started in my journey to financial freedom. I wanted to create an open discussion for some experienced investors and understand what you would do in my situation. I currently have $40k and own no real estate. What would your strategy be for creating a portfolio of real estate properties? 


Do you have a steady job right now? Having a stable job can help you handle unexpected expenses and save for buying new properties.

Many new investors are often looking for deals with good cashflow, but these are usually in less safe areas because they come with higher risks then investors are expecting higher cashflow.

I suggest focusing on the long-term growth in property value rather than immediate cashflow. Even if you're not making much profit at the start because you're investing in a better area, it should work out fine.

If you're losing $100-200 per month but have a stable job, you should be okay.

Most people get rich with real estate through property value appreciation rather than cashflow.

If you're comfortable living with roommates, you can purchase a house in a good area you like and rent out spare rooms. Another option is to buy a house, divide it into separate units, and keep one for yourself while renting out the others for more privacy. Just make sure you're not breaking any city rules when splitting the house.

In most cases, you won't face issues if you split a house as long as you live there, but it's best to confirm with local regulations to be sure.

Post: Cleveland and all the burbs

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@Bob Stevens I noticed Cleveland OH population is declining:

How much will it affect appreciation in the long run?

Where are all the vacant units in the area?

Post: Top location for long distance investing?

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  • Los Angeles, CA
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Quote from @Taz Zettergren:

@Justin Brin I've had a ton of success in Memphis, Little Rock, OKC and Dallas. I tend to stay south of the Mason Dixon line because the weather isn't as tough on properties. Are you investing actively or passively? 

I currently do the management myself but most of the time there is not much work needed. I guess it will be 80% passively 20% active?

Post: Top location for long distance investing?

Justin BrinPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 159
  • Votes 63
Quote from @Sandra Regnell:

@Justin Brin I just bought one in Memphis with Memphis Invest.

Anyone else here have experience with them? The sale was smooth but no renter yet.

Homes are very affordable there and Memphis Invest is turnkey with integrated property management.


 What class area is it in? How the pics look? How are you advertising the rental? Which platform are you using?

Post: What do you think of Pittsburgh, PA?

Justin BrinPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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Quote from @Jeremy Taggart:

@Justin Brin There can be some vacant houses that need rehabbed depending on the neighborhood, but those aren't really a part of the rental housing stock. As far as vacant rentals if you price something properly typically rents pretty quickly. Just can't get too far outside the city that's when rental demand starts to fade. I honestly think one of the main reasons this market hasn't gotten saturated yet is the population statistics.  

Will it might be better to invest in a city with growing population over time this way there are more chances it will appreciate more?

Post: What do you think of Pittsburgh, PA?

Justin BrinPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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Quote from @Jeremy Taggart:

@Justin Brin I think Pittsburgh is a great area to invest in which is why I own all of my properties here haha

For this particular deal:

You can likely get a lower interest rate with a local bank here. Probably closer to 7.75-8% right now. That will help lower monthly payment.

I put 8.5% just to be safe since interest rate is going up almost every week.

Closing costs are going to be more like 5-6% of purchase price if you are financing. Have your transfer tax, title fees, up front escrow of insurance/taxes, lender fees, tax prorations.

Doesn't the seller pay the transfer tax?

For insurance and tax I include it in the monthly expenses since they are really for after the purchase is complete.

I put 1.5% for closing costs that only includes title fees, lender fees and escrow fees for the purchase. (Insurance, interest payment, property tax I include it in the monthly costs). Transfer tax in Los Angeles I know the seller pays. How is it in Pittsburgh?

From my experience in LA the closing costs is usually less than 1.5%. Maybe in Pittsburgh is different?

Brentwood is one of the highest tax areas in Pittsburgh and they will usually immediately re assess if they see a property sold for more than the current assessed value. This property is assessed low now, so taxes would likely double at some point in the next few years. Worse case scenario probably end up being $400/month. If you aren't aware of this, there goes all your cash flow you were expecting.

How much is the property tax rate there 1.67% or higher?

Market rents for 2BR in Brentwood are about $900-$1000, so your gross rent should be higher than what you are calculating here. 8% vacancy is fine. I like to use flat fees for maintenance and capex since those will vary depending on rent amounts. An early 1900s duplex in a C class area outside the city could be renting at $800/unit. Or you could go into an A class area in the city renting at $1400/unit. If both are early 1900's duplexes, maintenance and capex are likely going to be similar. Using percentages will give you way different amounts for these solely because of the market rents so it's faulty. I would say on a duplex like this generally looking at $80-$120/unit for both maintenance and capex respectively. Where you end up in that range will depend on age of the major items like roof, hvac, plumbing/electrical, etc. Also if there is any deferred maintenance.

You are right. Basing maintenance and CapEx on rent is not accurate.

You should also budget 10% for property management as well regardless if you are self managing or not. At some point you will want to outsource it if you are planning on scaling a portfolio.

I would also use $100/month for insurance. Insurance costs have increased quite a bit the last couple years. Don't want to get caught by surprise by that same as with the property taxes.

I agree. 

As for the property itself, I am not a huge fan of how it's built into the hill like that and all the steps on both sides of the property. Will be a pain for lawn upkeep and harder to attract/retain tenants with all those steps. Not to mention additonal liability for you as the owner of the property.

Good point. I will avoid houses hanging in the air.

Hope that's helpful. Pittsburgh can be a great market, but you have to know your numbers and the ins/outs of each area. Can be very street by street and every neighborhood/borough/township is different.

How you get to learn if a street is good or not? By driving by?

Post: What do you think of Pittsburgh, PA?

Justin BrinPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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If I put 27% down it will become cashflow positive. Usually appreciation is more important then cashflow as long as you can afford the small cashflow loses. Cashflow is taxable and usually appreciation beats cashflow in the long run. Rents eventually go up and eventually it becomes cashflow positive.