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All Forum Posts by: Justin Cabral

Justin Cabral has started 17 posts and replied 58 times.

Quote from @Patricia Andriolo-Bull:

I live in Marco and also own a vacation rental there. I purchased it before the market went crazy. I try to follow the 1% rule. It is difficult to hit that with prices where they are today. I had a very good 2022 and start of 2023 but I'm starting to see some softness both in pricing and in occupancy. New STR regulations may make it a bit harder, too. I self manage but spoke to some PMs early on. At 20%, makes cash flow a bit more difficult. That said, if you can take the hit to help subsidize a vacation rental, it is a beautiful place.


 Hi @patricia andriolo-bull

i'm not familiar with new STR regulations. Could I ask you to elaborate please? Do you rent your place as STR or longer term?

how did you go about finding the person or company that cleans for you in between reservations? 

I’m willing to take the hit to somewhat subsidize the vacation rental but only because my current townhome is paid off. I would prefer that then upgrading to something bigger where I live in Miami. Prices here are stupid right now. 

Would love to get some feedback and consensus regarding STR's in Marco Island.

Also thoughts on using a property management company vs self managing. Specially if you do not live close by and have never been a landlord before. I just don’t think at todays prices there is enough meat on the bone to justify the cost of a property manager. There might not even be enough meat on the bone to break even by self managing which is why I am looking at this as more of a “cheaper way to own a vacation home that I can use during low season”

If I buy here this would be just under a 2 hr drive for me. 


Quote from @Jon Martin:

-Make sure the property is in a good location first and foremost; close to amenities/attractions; use google street view to make sure it is not on a super busy street, across the street or adjacent to a distressed property or low rent business etc (probably not an issue at your price point)

-Run the numbers with all the free tools mentioned; good idea to play around with subtracting a bathroom and bedroom within those searches to be sure there are no outliers skewing the data and to be more conservative at the low end of your estimations

-Check the comps for neighboring properties; how full are their calendars and at what price; also average review rating for location and what comments the guests are leaving about the area (safety, noise, proximity)

-Extra points for properties that are surrounded by more valuable homes; makes appreciation and profitable exit plan more likely 

-As for monthly bills, sometimes this is tough but by your 2nd property for the area you should have a decent idea. Just make sure you are accounting for all the various categories of bills you will have aside from the obvious utilities (lawn care, pool care, snow removal in cold areas, consumables, higher insurance cost etc)


Really good points. Thanks. One question I have is how would you suggest the best method to look up comps for neighboring properties? Straight thru airbnb and vrbo? Or is there a better online tool that makes that homework a bit more user friendly? 

Quote from @Brooklyn McCarty:

Use multiple data points to figure out gross; PL, airdna, rabbu, and most importantly the enemy method. 

For other costs, reach out to local utilities, they will typically tell you what the bills or estimated bills are. 

Also a good agent should be able to you help you with line items too

Not sure what PL was but I googled it and came up with Price Labs. Do you use a paid version. Any suggestions as far as using these websites and narrowing down to the most accurate data possible?

I like the way Rabbu breaks it down but its acary if you click on 25% percentile and see how much in the red you can potentially be. 

This is all great info. Thanks to all that have replied to my post. I really appreciate the helpful info.

Quote from @Andrew Steffens:
Quote from @Justin Cabral:
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:
Quote from @Justin Cabral:
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

What is your price point?

Tampa has a lot of options although a bit further than 2 hours!


 Hi @Andrew Steffens

I don’t have a specific price point although I would feel more comfortable if its not more than 1M. Tampa is much further than I would consider for my first acquisition. 


 Totally understood! While you are considering the further south markets, I am about to contract a canal front 4/3 in Apollo Beach for $925k that will produce $160-180k in gross revenue.  Try to make sure you find something that is getting close to those numbers.  Best of luck!


 I’m curious. What is the exercise you do to figure out how much a property will produce in revenue? 

I'm a total newbie to this. I ask you this because I want to be able to find a property and run the numbers to see if I can figure out if I can at least break even. For my first STR "break even" is ok with me because I just want a free vacation home without too many headaches. Hopefully I can learn enough from my first one that my next one will be more of an income producing property.


 Sure,  I use AirDNA as a starting point.  They have a tool called Rentalizer.  It is free, however the free version will simply spit out a number which some sort of algorithmic average of the closest comps.  It can at be times be very accurate, or very inaccurate.  I have a the paid version which actually shows me the comps so I can more accurately look at them and take in the ones that are closest to the subject property and throw out the others.  From there, typically I have real world numbers from similar homes we manage as we have many all over the Tampa area so I sort of take all that data in and assign a range.

Thanks for that info. I actually discovered Airdna this morning (free version). Pretty cool if the info is accurate. Maybe I’ll pay for it temporarily if I can dial down to a specific city I want to look at (since state version is incredibly expensive). 

Do you know how they gather all that info. Does airbnb and vrbo share that info for comps?


Newbie here trying not to overextend myself. 

So lets say I have my eyes on a property. How do you go about determining your monthly nut (as far as taxes, insurance, and maintenance)?

And once you have that figure, how do you get a "hand grenade close" estimate of what you think you can gross as a STR? Is it a manual process (what does that look like)? Are there any online tools (what does that look like)?

This would be my first one and the property alone will cost between 1M and 1.5M so I want to make sure I do my due diligence and minimize getting caught with my pants down. 

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide. 


Quote from @Andrew Steffens:
Quote from @Justin Cabral:
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

What is your price point?

Tampa has a lot of options although a bit further than 2 hours!


 Hi @Andrew Steffens

I don’t have a specific price point although I would feel more comfortable if its not more than 1M. Tampa is much further than I would consider for my first acquisition. 


 Totally understood! While you are considering the further south markets, I am about to contract a canal front 4/3 in Apollo Beach for $925k that will produce $160-180k in gross revenue.  Try to make sure you find something that is getting close to those numbers.  Best of luck!


 I’m curious. What is the exercise you do to figure out how much a property will produce in revenue? 

I'm a total newbie to this. I ask you this because I want to be able to find a property and run the numbers to see if I can figure out if I can at least break even. For my first STR "break even" is ok with me because I just want a free vacation home without too many headaches. Hopefully I can learn enough from my first one that my next one will be more of an income producing property.

Quote from @Andrei Zharov:

Thank you for your feedback. You are correct in noting that Cape Coral currently lacks access to sandy beaches since the Yacht Club is closed for rehabilitation. Based on your points, I have decided to redirect my attention to Bonita Springs, Fort Myers Beach, and North Naples instead. Given the high demand for contractors and the lengthy and complex permit process, I will also be adjusting my search criteria to exclude rehab houses.

I am flying down to Fort Myers next week and plan to spend a week there checking properties.


 Hi @Andrei Zharov

How is your search going? I am looking for something similar but within reasonable driving distance from my primary residence in Miami. Would like to find something with direct ocean access for boating. Wondering what you are finding out there and if you have adjusted your strategy.

Quote from @Brian P Hamwey:

Hello Justin,

I'm a realtor in Vero Beach working Sebastian (probably further north than you'd prefer) down to Port Saint Lucie. There are a number of communities that fit what you're looking for and I'd be happy to see what I can find for you. STRs in this area have a very low vacancy rate as well.


 Hi @Brian P Hamwey

I guess it would depend on the opportunity but anything over 90 minutes driving I will probably question because I want to use it regularly and I am impatient so long drives will kill it.