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All Forum Posts by: Judy A.

Judy A. has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Hi everyone. I am looking for recommendations for a GC that is familiar with the 203k loan process for a rehab job in Dorchester. Thanks!!

Post: Evicting month to month tenancy

Judy A.Posted
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I posted a few months back about taking over my in-laws two family home in Dorchester after the death of my father in law. Before my father in law passed he rented two rooms in his residence to people from his church. There was no lease just a verbal agreement of month to month. He told one of the tenants they needed to leave but she said she couldn’t find affordable housing so she couldn’t leave. My mother and sister in law want her out now immediately. The tenant is saying that she is on a list for affordable housing and that if we start the eviction process it will help her get the affordable housing(I don’t believe this but this is what she told my husband). My husband had her sign a notice to quit terminating tendency July 31st. We have never done anything like this before. How long will it take for us to get her out? What options do we have? Should we get a lawyer? Thanks!!!

Post: Novice investor needing advice

Judy A.Posted
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Yes it still has a loan on it. To my understanding my father in law had refinanced and maybe tapped into the equity of the house at one point. We have no intentions on selling.  The tenants living there have been there for years. I’m hoping they don’t give us any problems. The only thing that gives me some peace is if they did leave we could cover the mortgage payment ourselves so we aren’t desperate to keep them. Just want to make sure we are doing the right thing. 
Originally posted by @David Cahill:

A big question would be if there is a loan on the home. If not, and you can cash flow it, keep it! The golden rule in real estate is not to ever sell a property unless you absolutely have to (especially if it cash flows!). You may be able to tap into the equity for something else down the road. Charlie gave great advise on getting educated. Inheriting a tenant can be a nightmare if not handled correctly.

David

Post: Novice investor needing advice

Judy A.Posted
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Thanks!! That’s what I was thinking but just wanted to be sure. 
Originally posted by @Charlie MacPherson:

@Judy A. What I mean is that you can take $X and do one of two things:

a. Improve the Dorchester property. You should be able to raise rents somewhat - after the current leases expire.

or...

b. Use the same cash as a down payment for another home for you to house hack.  Especially if you buy another multi-family, should yield much a higher profit.

I'm comparing an incremental increase in rents to the much larger gain from house hacking.

Make sense?

Post: Novice investor needing advice

Judy A.Posted
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Thank you for the suggestions. I’m definitely going to look into the landlord class. I keep reading that any mistake made can be costly so getting fully educated is my goal. Would u mind explaining the bigger leverage piece of buying a new property instead of fixing my in-laws place? Thanks again!!!

Originally posted by @Charlie MacPherson:

@Judy A.  The very first thing you should do is to get educated on landlord/tenant laws in MA - which as you might know, are very heavily biased in favor of tenants.   Try something like this: http://nwsoma.org/homebuyer-education/landlord-training/

Next, you should learn about fair housing laws.  Here's a start: https://www.mass.gov/service-details/overview-of-fair-housing-law

There are a lot of ways to go wrong, so that's time worth investing as mistakes can be expensive.

Without knowing specifics, I'd say that using equity as a down payment on a house hack (you get big leverage) will yield better results than using it to improve the Dorchester house (you get incremental rent increase).

As to the 3,000 sq ft lot, selling it to a builder might work IF it's buildable.  The city can tell you if it's large enough to build.  If it's not, maybe a garage for the existing home, or just use it for a nicer back/side yard.

Good luck!

Thank you for your suggestion/advice. We really have no idea what we are doing and you giving us concert things to think about helps a lot. Do you work with investors? We are thinking of purchasing a multi family somewhere south of Boston. We aren’t looking to buy right now but we are hoping in the next year to be able to start the process.

Originally posted by @Lien Vuong:

I think I would evaluate the rental market and units in the same condition as yours. I totally understand that it's hard to see other units go for $2000 and you're here collecting chump change but you have to consider that your property has been tenanted for many years without any updates. If you change their $1200 to $1500-1600 I think that might be a doable move but if you went close to the $2000 it would mean that they might move out as the disparity is too large. 

At that point, consider this, are you willing to renovate and update the unit to the market value? Do you have the funds/time to do something like that? If they have been there for more than five years, they would likely need a new bath, reface kitchen, floors, and repaint. That would be a 3-6 project. 

This is not necessarily meant to be a deterrent but just a realistic lense so you can set up your expectations correctly. 

Also - any change in rental rates would need a 30 day notice, I like giving them 60 days as a courtesy. 

Post: Novice investor needing advice

Judy A.Posted
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My husband and I will be taking over his parents’ house in Dorchester(located near fields corner) due to the passing of his dad and his mom not really wanting to be a homeowner anymore. It’s a 2 family with tenants on the first floor and my mother in law on the second/third floor. We have no landlord/investing exp(we currently rent in Quincy) but want to buy our first property in the next year. We want to do a multi family house hack so I can pay down my student loans(currently have 200k in debt) I have a few questions and my apologies in advance if this sounds very basic but we really have no experience. 

1. The rent at my inlaw’s place is currently way below market value. They are paying 1200 for a 3br 1ba and parking is included.  Rents in surrounding areas are 1900+. They are long term tenants( I think they have been living there for 10yrs plus). The rent covers the majority of the mortgage with out of pocket expense from my in laws being 200 bucks a month. I know the apartment needs updating just not sure how much(planning on doing a walk through hopefully this wknd). Is it a good idea to raise the rent and if the tenant moves get financing(maybe a home equity loan) and rehab the apartment and get new tenants to pay market value? 

2. We want to buy a multi family and house hack it to be able to live rent free or possibly lower housing cost so I can aggressively pay down my debt.  Would it be smart instead of trying to change anything at the Dorchester property use the equity for a down payment on a house for us so I can get closer to my goal of getting rid of my student loans? 

3. My in laws’s house comes with 3000sq ft vacant land right next to the house. What can I do with the lot from an investor’s point of view?

We plan on going to real estate investors meeting this wk to try and network. Is there any other suggestions anyone recommends to help educate us. Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Thank you for your reply and I agree with what your saying.  My mother in law doesn’t want the house any more so we are in the process of figuring out how to transfer everything into our names. She will still be living there but doesn’t care what we do. I’m trying to run this like a business and get as much as I can. Because we are very new and this was a sudden change(father in law passed three wks ago) I’m trying to find out as much as I can so we make an educated decision. We are ok if the tenants do decide to leave(we could cover the cost ourselves if that meant getting someone that will pay full market value). Apts here in Boston from what I have seen don’t stay vacant long so I don’t think we will have a prob getting someone new in. One question that I have is what would be the best way to transfer the house into our names? Should we just refinance ?(there is still a mortgage on the house) One thing we are considering is keeping my mother in law’s name on the mortgage Bc we wanted to buy our own property and would like to use any first time home owners program that we might qualify for. If we take her house(meaning we put it in our names) I’m not sure we would qualify for a first time home owners program. What would you suggest?

Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

You are in a difficult situation. You do not have the skill sets to be a landlord which means you can not manage the business. If I purchased a property with a tenant like this I would inform them that rent was going to full market and allow them time to choose to stay or go. Because I operate a business my goals would be to maximise rents immediately. If they stay great if they leave I eat the cost of a turn over and get a good tenant that can afford the rent. This has my business producing at 100% efficiency asap.

In your situation I see no reason to rush anything. It is operating fine as is so you need to speak to your mother in law an see what she wants to do. Keep in mind it is not a business for her. She will likely not want to raise their rents or force them out so there is nothing for you to do. I do not see the income as being particularly important to her since they did set the rents.  Ask if she will agree to annual/reasonable rent increases and let it hum along. 

If she were to pass the game would be different.

Thanks a lot for the recommendations. You mentioned many valid points. Will pass this on to my husband and add this to our list of things to research. Will def contact you if we have any more questions. 

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

@Judy A. there are literally 172 different things that can go wrong as a new Landlord. Each of those mistakes can cost you hundreds or thousands of dollars. A property manager will cost 10% of $2,000 monthly rent or $2,400 a year, possibly less.

Do yourself a favor and find a good, quality PM to handle this for you. It will reduce the headaches and probably put more money in your pocket in the long run.

Remember: cheaper doesn't mean you'll make more money.

You can start by going to www.narpm.org to search their directory of managers. These are professionals with additional training and a stricter code of ethics. It's no guarantee but it's a good place to start. Regardless of how you find them, try to interview at least three managers

1. Ask how many units they manage and how much experience they have. If it's a larger organization, feel free to inquire about their different staff qualifications.

2. Review their management agreement. Make sure it explicitly explains the process for termination if you are unhappy with their services, but especially if they violate the terms of your agreement.

3. Understand the fees involved and calculate the total cost for an entire year of management so you can compare the different managers. It may sound nice to pay a 5% management fee but the extra fees can add up to be more than the other company that charges 10% with no add-on fees. Fees should be clearly stated, easy to understand, and justifiable. If you ask the manager to justify a fee and he starts hemming and hawing, move on or require them to remove the fee. Don't be afraid to negotiate!

4. Review their lease agreement and addenda. Think of all the things that could go wrong and see if the lease addresses them: unauthorized pets or tenants, early termination, security deposit, lease violations, late rent, eviction, lawn maintenance, parking, etc.

5. Don't just read the lease! Ask the manager to explain their process for dealing with maintenance, late rent, evictions, turnover, etc. If they are professional, they can explain this quickly and easily. If they are VERY professional, they will have their processes in writing as verification that it is enforced equally and fairly by their entire staff.

6. Ask to speak with some of their current owners and current/former tenants. You can also check their reviews online at Google, Facebook, or Yelp. Just remember: most negative reviews are written by problematic tenants. The fact they are complaining online might be an indication the property manager dealt with them properly so be sure to ask the manager for their side of the story.

7. Look at their marketing strategy. Are they doing everything they can to expose properties to the widest possible market? Are their listings detailed with good quality photos? Can they prove how long it takes to rent a vacant property?

This isn't inclusive but should give you a good start. If you have specific questions about property management, I'll be happy to help!

Thank you sooo very much!!! All this house stuff literally started three wks ago. My husband and I don’t own any property and this will be our first time owning and being a landlord. Bc he is grieving right now I’m trying to find out as much info as I can. I want to do this right and be profitable. Right now the asking price for rent one street over is over 2500. We are missing out on a lot of money. I will def look into the book you suggested. Thanks again!!!