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All Forum Posts by: Juan Zamora

Juan Zamora has started 5 posts and replied 11 times.

Quote from @Jonathan Taylor:

@Juan Zamora 10% down loans for striclty investment properties (no owner occupancy allowed) are not a reality any more. If you are buying a second home and qualifying conventionally, then a second home purchase can be done with 10% down. But more investors buying STRs are putting 20% down using STR specific DSCR loans assuming the rents can debt cover. These loans can have an interest only period of up to 10 years and the DSC ratio is calculated using the interest payment not the P and I. These loans are what is working in this high rate, low Long term rent environment.


Interesting information.. so the rents are based typical long term leases? Or do they calculate STR avg rates or revenue to qualify?

Hi everyone, I'm looking to jump into the STR game since the market has been crazy. I feel the time is good since theirs fear and people are hesitant because of rates not dropping, thus giving me a opportunity to make this move.

I have a few locations in mind I've been doing my research for STR and running possible numbers but now I need to know what loans are out there? What's the best option with low DP then the traditional 20%..

lastly of you have a awesome lender who is creative and can make it happen, please share contact Info. 

thanks 

From the looks of the home there are no pain points. Home was done very well. 

Here’s at address. 

24926 Avenida sombra, Murrieta ca 92563

I want to see what would a like minded flipper / investor would do in this scenario since home is close to 100 days, they purchased home at night of price of market. How much less would they take, or just to get rid of and get off the books? Would you stick to your guns and not fold with price ? Would this deal even make sense with the change of times pulling towards the buyers market? Lastly I looked at recently sold and homes similar sold for 550K or below…..
if I wanted to scoop up, what price would be a fair market offer ? 
Thank you for your insight. I want to understand the thought process clearly 


Hey guys, I'm trying to understand the mind set of the "flipper" and how this could be a opportunity to buy if they are willing to discount. Here's the general info I have gathered from MLS, and local tax information.

Home is listed for 600k,

3bd, 2ba, 1640 sqft

Home built in late 80s.

This home was done by a flipper, and they bought it at the height of market price at 500k in July . Not sure how much money they put in but looks like flooring, cabinets and painting.. they had this listed at 650K in September. It’s been sitting on the market close to 100 days now and they only have dropped about 7% in price or about 50k.

If your looking to buy this one and done home, in this market and where time is money for flippers, what type of offer do you think you can make on this?

Would one make a low ball offer? Or why would they not price drop to be competitive in the area where the size of the home medium prices are around 550k.

any good insight would be great to hear. And I know this is a place we’re we have flippers and investors so, this is a cut throat business we are all in and some make it and some don’t, some eat each other up and others win..

thanks

Hey guys, I'm trying to understand the mind set of the "flipper" and how this could be a opportunity to buy if they are willing to discount. Here's the general info I have gathered from MLS, and local tax information.

Home is listed for 600k, 

3bd, 2ba, 1640 sqft 

Home built in late 80s. 

This home was done by a flipper, and they bought it at the height of market price at 500k in July . Not sure how much money they put in but looks like flooring, cabinets and painting.. they had this listed at 650K in September. It’s been sitting on the market close to 100 days now and they only have dropped about 7% in price or about 50k. 

If your looking to buy this one and done home, in this market and where time is money for flippers, what type of offer do you think you can make on this? 

Would one make a low ball offer? Or why would they not price drop to be competitive in the area where the size of the home medium prices are around 550k.

any good insight would be great to hear. And I know this is a place we’re we have flippers and investors so, this is a cut throat business we are all in and some make it and some don’t, some eat each other up and others win.. 

thanks 

Post: Opendoor homes, can you get a deal on theses

Juan ZamoraPosted
  • Riverside CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Nicholas Coulter:

@Juan Zamora I think you can. Have you talked about this at length with your Agent to submit the offers below ask?


 I think the problem is that when I do talk about below asking, my realtor wants the reasoning. I don't think she's comfortable but she's done it but not sure she's broken it down to the listing agent.  So check my logic:

I look at the home value of the home in 2019, then I give it a good generous appreciation of 6% a year on a healthy normal market value of growth for the 3 years. So then I see when it's listing price is and I want to get to the closest to that number if possible. What I'm trying to do is not get a home that will devalue if the economy goes to a recession in 2023, and based on all the data it's very very likely. So I figured to submit a offer close or max maybe 25% below listing price. 

is this a flaw way of thinking? Is there another way to look for value in today's crazy landscape?

Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Dustin Allen:

@Juan Zamora

The right price would be based on how much the repairs actually cost to get this to a condition that matches the best homes on market. Too many times, we see clients who say “Thays a lot of work, I want $100k off”. When the work only costs $50k, sellers won’t be happy. Dig into the numbers and get accurate info and pricing on your repairs. This will allow you to make accurate offers that the listing agent can explain to the client.

If you want to just shotgun offers at everything with 25% under list price, be prepared to be ignored by a lot of sellers and looking for new agents frequently. There are agents who will write these offers regardless, they are probably the less busy ones. The more experienced agents will want to know that there is at least some thought being put into the offers so that they can back it up when talking to the listing agent.



>clients who say “Thays a lot of work, I want $100k off”. When the work only costs $50k, sellers won’t be happy.

For a $50K cost of value add, my minimum expected return is double (so at least $100K value increase for the $50K cost).  That is the minimum!  This is because 1) these value adds take time and effort 2) The time of these rehabs typically have zero income.  3) If I am doing a BRRRR, I only get 75% of the added value.  In this 75% refinance LTV, I also want to recover my initial investment.  This implies that if the $50K effort only returned $75K of value I would not be getting any recovery of the initial investment. 4) any significant value add has risk.  An expected project of $50K can easily turn into a cost of $75K. 

If you do not get at least a $100K discount for an expected $50k project, you will not very successful with your value add effort.

Sellers of course want to price to take advantage of the value add of the buyer.  They should not expect this.  If they want to do the work to obtain the benefit of the value add, they should do the work themselves.  Any investor who does not at least expect a doubling of value, compared to the value add cost, is underselling their efforts.

BTW I have done quite a few BRRRR and so far in every one, I have achieved a value increase of at least double the value add cost.

>The more experienced agents will want to know that there is at least some thought being put into the offers so that they can back it up when talking to the listing agent.

I may share my offer logic with an agent, but if they are expecting it they will not be my agent for long (or they can discount their commission for what I am teaching them).  As an RE investor, I do not expect to pay retail.  I also desire to make as much profit as I can.  If the agent does not want to make my offers, there are plenty of agents that will.  I have purchased $4M in RE in the last year; I suspect there are many experienced agents that would like to represent me.

it all makes sense. I have discussed with my agent my plans. And I’m trying to house hack since I don’t have a million dollars in my account. I live in the home for a few years, and during that time I do upgrades on the home, and at the same time save money to be able to put money down on another property. I currently own 2 homes, one rental and other living in, and now looking for my 3rd, to have 2 rentals and in the future do it again. Again I have explained this to my agent, I also explain to her about my thoughts on the economy, real estate and data that’s happening in the market. At the end of the day, I’m looking for a home that if this economy goes south in Q1 or Q2 of next year, I don’t want to be holding a assets that will be under water with a 6.5% interest rate that I won’t be able to refinance in 2 or 3 years or longer. I’m not trying to time the market, I’m calculating values and factoring possible value loss and cost of rehabs and where would my threshold be, that’s on me. Not to mention I also look at what the rental for the potential property would be compared to my mortgage and the cash flow. 

all this and my agent doesn’t really share my same input. She claims she works with investors, but I’m in a contract for 12 months… 


Post: Opendoor homes, can you get a deal on theses

Juan ZamoraPosted
  • Riverside CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6

Ok, here’s another topic I’m interested in, has anyone been successful with submitting low offers on opendoor properties given all the bad news about this company and in high risk of bankruptcy. Would today be a goo time to send in offers or will they stick to their numbers given the company has been trying to offload debt?

Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Juan Zamora:

I recently made a offer to a home that needed a little more then TLC. Besides painting, property needed whole new flooring, updated appliances, some cabinets repair, AC unit is on its last leg, water heater almost 15 years old, and whole lot of cosmetics like windows, old plumbing and the yard front and back completely neglected. I submitted a 25% offer off the listing price. My realtor told me the following Monday that they responded with “Seller was insulted by the offering and will not be countering”. 
can I get some advice on what is a low offer? Is 25% too low? Is 15%? 

Thanks 


 Nope perfect, (realtors are useless) When you insult the seller you did a good job! I just purchased my home back in May, listed for $650k, offered $475k, as it needed work. The realtor was telling me I was much too low. I said submit the offer or I will directly with the seller. Well sure enough they countered at 525k, got it for 512k. One of my 1st deals, Ask was 675k, I offered 550k. While we were in the driveway a truck pulled up. The realtor asked may I help you. No, we are changing the locks and they put chains on the door. Sure, enough it was going into foreclosure. I ripped the contract out of the relator's hand, and we changed my offer to. 450k, got it for 465k, YA NEVER KNOW, always offer low. NEVER listen the relator who 90% of the time does not know anything about the property or the seller, but they want to provide advice

Good luck 


 Thanks, I feel better about it. It was a bit shocking that my realtor told me they were insulted, instead of just telling me they said no. But yeah, my realtor was super hesitant about submitting my offer but obviously she did it because we'll, she works for me in that sense. But my logic in the offer I broke it down to my realtor. I'm not sure she gave that same insight to the seller's agent to not only present my offer but explain in a sense. But it's ok it's still active and I know it's going to sit there. I'll keep my eye out. 

I recently made a offer to a home that needed a little more then TLC. Besides painting, property needed whole new flooring, updated appliances, some cabinets repair, AC unit is on its last leg, water heater almost 15 years old, and whole lot of cosmetics like windows, old plumbing and the yard front and back completely neglected. I submitted a 25% offer off the listing price. My realtor told me the following Monday that they responded with “Seller was insulted by the offering and will not be countering”. 
can I get some advice on what is a low offer? Is 25% too low? Is 15%? 

Thanks