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All Forum Posts by: James Kirby

James Kirby has started 11 posts and replied 53 times.

What do you do to get a copy of the lease to your new (or extended) Tenant's? Do you scan and email it, print it and mail it, hand delivers it? Anyone use a mobile scanner to get it done right away with their laptop? 
Looking for ways to simplify the process and not have anyone say - This was added or this was redacted, etc.

Thanks in advance for your time,

I'm a Pro-member myself. However, I have friends and family that would like to view the webinars and was curious to see if the Webinars are free to Non-pro members?

Thanks,

Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:

To me, this is not a discrimination issue it is a protecting my neighbors and other tenants thing. Can you be straight up honest with your tenants and others in saying if you or others have Felony convictions that include a violent nature/sex crime of any sort and you have not been out of jail/prison for at least 5 years to prove yourself as rehabilitated then I do not want you in my property? 

I don't want to waste their time/money and I want my other tenants and neighbors to know that I am doing my job of keeping them as safe as I can.

Of course, other crimes will be considered on a case by case review at my sole discretion.

Thanks, 

 Yea absolutely. There are a few crazy liberal states where this is an issue but for the majority of the country this is no issue at all. We do it all the time. If you really wanted to you could simply say "Hey Mr tenant you're a felon? I don't rent to scum bags. Go pound salt bro". Note that, that specific route may cause you to get punched in the face. So however you're comfortable saying it will work as well.

 This is one of the reasons I sold my property in Seattle. When they passed the first come first serve law I said enough is enough. Landlords have to rent to the first person that meets the requirements on paper. 

 Ya, I read some of the laws. That's scary. 

Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:

To me, this is not a discrimination issue it is a protecting my neighbors and other tenants thing. Can you be straight up honest with your tenants and others in saying if you or others have Felony convictions that include a violent nature/sex crime of any sort and you have not been out of jail/prison for at least 5 years to prove yourself as rehabilitated then I do not want you in my property? 

I don't want to waste their time/money and I want my other tenants and neighbors to know that I am doing my job of keeping them as safe as I can.

Of course, other crimes will be considered on a case by case review at my sole discretion.

Thanks, 

 Yea absolutely. There are a few crazy liberal states where this is an issue but for the majority of the country this is no issue at all. We do it all the time. If you really wanted to you could simply say "Hey Mr tenant you're a felon? I don't rent to scum bags. Go pound salt bro". Note that, that specific route may cause you to get punched in the face. So however you're comfortable saying it will work as well.

 Although to some I would feel like saying this. I think for my business name I would TRY to keep it professional. 

I am putting a welcome kit together and was putting in how I am working to keep them safe with lighting, locks, background checks, etc. and got to the point on felons and when I looked it up the HUD portion kind of threw me off a bit. I am still a little worried about all of the crap people can and will take you to court on.

HUD says "A housing provider must… be able to prove through reliable evidence that it's policy or practice of making housing decisions based on criminal history actually assists in protecting resident safety and/or property."
I mean - Sure you can prove it in ways as offenders have a higher chance of offending again. But, I think it could still be hard to prove in court.

Thoughts?

 Any small time landlord like you has a bigger risk of getting struck by lightning than going through some court battle for denying a felon's rental application.

 I'm pretty sure you're right. Lol. I tend to worry to much. But I'm trying to build a strong foundation. 

Originally posted by @Lynnette E.:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:

To me, this is not a discrimination issue it is a protecting my neighbors and other tenants thing. Can you be straight up honest with your tenants and others in saying if you or others have Felony convictions that include a violent nature/sex crime of any sort and you have not been out of jail/prison for at least 5 years to prove yourself as rehabilitated then I do not want you in my property? 

I don't want to waste their time/money and I want my other tenants and neighbors to know that I am doing my job of keeping them as safe as I can.

Of course, other crimes will be considered on a case by case review at my sole discretion.

Thanks, 

 Yea absolutely. There are a few crazy liberal states where this is an issue but for the majority of the country this is no issue at all. We do it all the time. If you really wanted to you could simply say "Hey Mr tenant you're a felon? I don't rent to scum bags. Go pound salt bro". Note that, that specific route may cause you to get punched in the face. So however you're comfortable saying it will work as well.

 Although to some I would feel like saying this. I think for my business name I would TRY to keep it professional. 

I am putting a welcome kit together and was putting in how I am working to keep them safe with lighting, locks, background checks, etc. and got to the point on felons and when I looked it up the HUD portion kind of threw me off a bit. I am still a little worried about all of the crap people can and will take you to court on.

HUD says "A housing provider must… be able to prove through reliable evidence that it's policy or practice of making housing decisions based on criminal history actually assists in protecting resident safety and/or property."
I mean - Sure you can prove it in ways as offenders have a higher chance of offending again. But, I think it could still be hard to prove in court.

Thoughts?

 I would think that if you say 'all convicted or anyone with a record' you would not have a defensible position.  

However when one states that folks with a record of a violent or sexual nature its pretty easy to say that is protecting people.  And if one states that drug distribution, manufacturing, arson type offences are not acceptable it would be easy to show that that type of activity could destroy property.  And when you add a time limit, it seems even more reasonable that you are allowing someone to rent if they have shown they are rehabilitated.

Might be harder to 'pass the test' if you had other guidelines that eliminated those with a record of, say, embezzlement, alcohol on the beach, curfew, or marriage fraud.

 Thank you. I think that you have given me some great ideas to run with. I truly appreciate it. 

Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:

To me, this is not a discrimination issue it is a protecting my neighbors and other tenants thing. Can you be straight up honest with your tenants and others in saying if you or others have Felony convictions that include a violent nature/sex crime of any sort and you have not been out of jail/prison for at least 5 years to prove yourself as rehabilitated then I do not want you in my property? 

I don't want to waste their time/money and I want my other tenants and neighbors to know that I am doing my job of keeping them as safe as I can.

Of course, other crimes will be considered on a case by case review at my sole discretion.

Thanks, 

 Yea absolutely. There are a few crazy liberal states where this is an issue but for the majority of the country this is no issue at all. We do it all the time. If you really wanted to you could simply say "Hey Mr tenant you're a felon? I don't rent to scum bags. Go pound salt bro". Note that, that specific route may cause you to get punched in the face. So however you're comfortable saying it will work as well.

 Although to some I would feel like saying this. I think for my business name I would TRY to keep it professional. 

I am putting a welcome kit together and was putting in how I am working to keep them safe with lighting, locks, background checks, etc. and got to the point on felons and when I looked it up the HUD portion kind of threw me off a bit. I am still a little worried about all of the crap people can and will take you to court on.

HUD says "A housing provider must… be able to prove through reliable evidence that it's policy or practice of making housing decisions based on criminal history actually assists in protecting resident safety and/or property."
I mean - Sure you can prove it in ways as offenders have a higher chance of offending again. But, I think it could still be hard to prove in court.

Thoughts?

To me, this is not a discrimination issue it is a protecting my neighbors and other tenants thing. Can you be straight up honest with your tenants and others in saying if you or others have Felony convictions that include a violent nature/sex crime of any sort and you have not been out of jail/prison for at least 5 years to prove yourself as rehabilitated then I do not want you in my property? 

I don't want to waste their time/money and I want my other tenants and neighbors to know that I am doing my job of keeping them as safe as I can.

Of course, other crimes will be considered on a case by case review at my sole discretion.

Thanks, 

Originally posted by @Jason Ray Richardson:
Originally posted by @James Kirby:
Originally posted by @Jason Ray Richardson:

I believe that you can in anywhere. I charge 50.00 which covers the 34.95 for the background checks and some money for my time. I don't even due showings without an application so only the serious ones apply. It cuts down on people with backgrounds that wouldn't pass even applying. Crediting back is up to you. I personally don't. 

 Jason,

I don't think that I would have enough people in some of the towns I have rentals to do this haha. I think that is a great approach for the bigger cities though. I am still debating on crediting the funds or partial funds back towards the first month's rent.

Thanks!

 Not sure how small your town is but mine is only 13,000 people

 In the 2 counties that I have properties there is a total of 30k. Most of my properties are in 3 towns that are fairly close together (~20 mile radius) and have roughly 7k people.

Originally posted by @Jason Ray Richardson:

I believe that you can in anywhere. I charge 50.00 which covers the 34.95 for the background checks and some money for my time. I don't even due showings without an application so only the serious ones apply. It cuts down on people with backgrounds that wouldn't pass even applying. Crediting back is up to you. I personally don't. 

 Jason,

I don't think that I would have enough people in some of the towns I have rentals to do this haha. I think that is a great approach for the bigger cities though. I am still debating on crediting the funds or partial funds back towards the first month's rent.

Thanks!

Originally posted by @Anthony Testino:

@James Kirby After 18 years of being in the construction field, Id say 90% of the owners an or workers have some type of criminal back ground. This isn’t saying that contractors are criminals, just that some may had made bad choices in their youth and this is one of the only fields whom allow others a chance and a change. Everyone deserves a chance and judging one by their mistakes from 15-30 years prior is just as bad as one judging others by their post.

 Anthony,

My whole life has been based on second chances my friend. I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, for my rentals, I need to ensure the safety of my other renters (if multifamily) and the neighbors as well. Everyone can change and a lot of people want and do change. Our history is our history and we learn and grow from it. I will never base my decisions based solely on someone's background, but I do need to do my due diligence to protect everyone and my investments and I am sure that we can all understand that. I am more likely to work with people that don't lie to me about it than I am to those that do though!

Thanks!