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All Forum Posts by: Joyce C.

Joyce C. has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

For almost 2 years now I’ve been trying to force the distribution of inherited assets so I can increase my retirement portfolio. Unfortunately brother has his own ideas and has been fighting it for his own benefit. Now on my third lawyer, this one is telling me just to sell the property and cash out then invest the cash. I’m getting beat down and I’m wondering if I at 68 years old should even be getting into real estate investing. Should I take the money and just put it in a CD with that guaranteed income or take the plunge and risk it by renovating the house, renting, and then rolling it over into my new retirement home in a few years with a 1031? I’m still working full-time until this distribution is resolved. This new lawyer also made his millions investing in real estate over the past 25 years, not by being a lawyer. So he gets real estate investing. Although I’ve known him for several years I can’t help but think he may possibly have contacts that would be interested in buying the properties themselves. Tired of waffling back-and-forth. Every day that goes by without this distribution beats me down even further and increases the money that I’ve lost in rental income. Am I looking at things the wrong way or right way? is there something that I’m overlooking that is a benefit?

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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UPDATE:  Given the rate hikes some of the property values have declined as have the monthly rental rates. Still have not settled on the inherited properties because the market is all over the map and, quite frankly, dealing with siblings who have no knowledge of the RE market is not fun. 

First thing I did was have a home inspection. You know... I don't want to insult anyone .... really! However, I think that industry is bunk. I made sure I hired someone that was "certified" to at least 'feel' they would provide more insight than just my views. The report I got back only had check marks that he 'inspected' the area. No commentaries except that the roof "MAY need to be replaced". A blind man could see the roof needs to be replaced! Has needed ti for 7 years!!! My expectation was that I would get a report that said "yes... I inspected that area and found.... nothing/repairs listed/needs update to code/ or something more than a simple checkmark. Please correct me if my expectations are off mark!

Main concern comes with number crunching... Income/Expense/ROI. Given the rent has gone down in these 2 markets, the value has maintained BUT the cost to bring the home property up to date is still high due to inflated construction materials. Need new roof, 2 baths and the kitchen at a bare minimum updated and here that is going to cost $95K. (I really REALLY wish I could do at least some of it myself but I just can't. Well, the tile work and painting but that's like spitting in the ocean trying to create a title wave.) Now... that, in and of itself, is not 'terrible' but add to the financing to buy siblings out, and the lower rent, I'm not even going to break even BUT have a loss! So the ROI doesn't seem to be there on the inherited properties. One would think its a cake-walk. Additionally, have not been able to locate someone to discuss the taxes on inheriting the properties. Don't even know what those may be or when they need to be paid.

Had considered 203K financing but I think that has its own pitfalls because, my understanding, have to use THEIR contractors. How do I know 'their contractors' are going to do the best/proper work and not cut corners?? Govt run policy/process does not necessarily mean it's good.

Plan is to have at least one of these properties to provide additional income during retirement but it doesn't look like I can make that happen unless I flip the house and reinvest the proceeds. THEN taxes will be paid on the net UNLESS.... maybe... 1031 exchange! Maybe get both houses, sell the one that's ready for rent and put THOSE proceeds into the other house. 

Your thoughts are more than welcome!!

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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Quote from @Brad S.:

Hopefully, this isn't in CA, since the property tax laws just changed on inherited properties. If it is in CA, the tax basis will adjust to today, unless you live in the "homeplace". That would be a negative, if it is in CA. But, in other states you shouldn't have that concern.

Once you have the "homeplace" as a rental, you can later sell and 1031 exchange into something else, or get a DSCR loan. You may also be able to get a DSCR loan now, on the current rental. Maybe there would be enough money there to do what you want. Good luck!


Virginia. Believe the tax basis is from when mother passed, 2015. I am very well versed in 1031 exchanges and have been certified in them! Had a rental myself years ago wanted to do a 1031 but some other person got in the way and it didn't work out that way. What is a DSCR Loan? I'm really hoping to get both properties because of the development to happen in the near future.

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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Quote from @Rick Albert:

I think this is an amazing opportunity. Deals are hard to come by right now and here you are handed two opportunities. Even if you buy everyone out, you could renovate and sell.

Can one of them be a house hack? Lower interest rate and likely less fees. This would be a discussion to have with a lender.

Talk with a CPA/tax advisor but my understanding is your tax basis would start at the time the property is transferred. You might be able to use an appraisal to determine this. 


 I think it is too! Glad to see someone else does as well! Can you please explain what you mean by "house hack"?

As for the basis, I've had 2 people tell me the tax basis would be when the parent died. My mother passed 7 years ago, [yeah... 7 years and sibling has done nothing!] that is the homeplace. The other is father's rental property. Father passed a year ago. 

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Joyce C.:

Have you talked to a lender? You should have enough equity that you could take out a mortgage sufficient to pay the siblings off and you keep the property. You may even qualify to borrow enough to complete the renovations at the same time.

Talk to a lender to see what you qualify for, then crunch the numbers to see if it makes sense. If it doesn't cash flow, then you may be better off just selling the properties and walking away.


I've not spoken with a lender yet. Kicking around what my options are. The LTV would be 67 given I have to pay out 2/3 to my siblings. I don't want to dip into my own savings because of the current market. It needs to stay where it is. I have to get firm information from a lender to be able to gauge P/L. I know there are lots of loans available such as 203K and the Fannie Mae HomeStyle Renovation loan. I may consider a 10/1 ARM because I know I will be selling within 10 years. But I don't know a reputable, experienced lender to discuss it. Cash flow is king. Walking away would be hard, honestly because I've been trying to get sibling to settle this with me for 2 years.

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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Quote from @Ke Nan Wang:

1. Downside would be the stress associated with the renovation and later property management. If you haven't done it before there will be a learning curve. Feel free to reach out to me if you like to go over more details. 

2. You need to speak to a tax attorney/CPA/Enrolled Agent about this. Financial advisors are a different profession unless they are licensed and have been practice in tax laws. 

3. Talk to lenders about financing the deal. Google them, ask around for referrals. Keep this in mind, one lender may not be able to help doesn't mean there is no help. There are so many lending products out there you just need to find the right one. Of course keep things in mind, higher risk (low/no equity, no collateral, low income etc) to the lender means higher interest rate. But don't let the absolute value of the interest rate deter you from getting a good deal. For example, if you talk to one lender who's willing to help you finance the deal for 10% rate, don't let the 10% scare you. Crunch the number and see what's your net and if the number makes sense. Often high interest breaks the deal but it's not the law. And you always have the option to refinance it to a lower interest rate with a different mortgage product later down the road (keep in mind the closing cost associate with the refinancing has to also make sense).


 I'm rather well versed in renovations. Went through it with the house I'm living in. I'm a Project Manager full time so I know how to create and stick to schedules and coordinate between contractors. Thing is there are a lot of contractors that are price gouging in my area. Roofs are anywhere between $8K - $15K. Crazy! Some things like painting and tilework I can do myself but I can't upgrade electricity or plumbing. Considering hiring a home inspector to get a good idea what needs to be repaired or upgraded first. 

I've considered a 203K renovation loan also. Can borrow up to 110% of the future value after renovations. But then there is the Fannie Mae HomeStyle mortgage that is less cost associated with it. The lending is where I'm stuck. If I buy 2/3 of $500K, my LTV is still 67% and the PITI payment is more than the rent. Seems like I should consider a 10/1 ARM. I know I will be selling it within 10 years. Too many unknowns at this time until I get the inspector and contractors to give me prices.

I'm considering putting both houses in an LLC but not sure the benefits to me as a single person. Guess tax attorney/CPA could best answer that? Before I buy them out I want to have all these questions answered so I know what I'm getting into completely.

Post: Inherited property to rental?

Joyce C.Posted
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I have the opportunity to buy my siblings out of 2 inherited properties, one of which is my home growing up and the other has been a rental for over 50 years. Both are in a great location. How do I go about obtaining funds for this? The homeplace needs about $100K work done because it's never been updated and well.... was not well cared for the past 15 years due to my mother being ill. 

I have 3 questions:

1) What is the downside of turning the homeplace to a rental and continuing with the other house as a rental?

2) I know I don't have to pay any tax on the inheritance but I'll be hit with cap gains when I go to sell, won't I? I can find a boatload of financial advisors none of which really know anything about investing in real estate. They all want to be liquid. I have always believed "everyone needs a place to live... not everyone 'needs' to own stock". Case in point, the market now.

3) How do I find financing to do this? There are other items inherited so we can haggle a bit but I need reno dollars and some to buy them out.