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All Forum Posts by: Joyce Kim

Joyce Kim has started 8 posts and replied 17 times.

Quote from @Seo Hui Han:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Joyce Kim

HELOC and home equity loan are not the same

Equity line of credit is a line of credit that let’s you withdraw up to specific amount and you can take less and pay interest on what you draw

For example if you had a $50k line of credit you may choose to use $20k of it and it is usually ten years where you can pay it off and draw more

A home equity loan is a second mortgage which is a fixed amount and paid off over a period of time

HELOC is better in my opinion but if you have no income it will be difficult to get approved even with the equity you have

Common misconception people have is if you have equity you can just take it, that’s not the case the bank also wants to make sure you have the ability to repay it.


Sorry, all the other posters are right. There is a difference between a HELOC and a Home Equity Loan, my mistake. And they're also correct about the difficulty in obtaining either without current income.

I appreciate your reply though. I will reach out to your contact anyway to learn what I need in order to apply for the HELOC. Thank you!! 

Thank you so much for the offer. I am not a developer per se but I was in tech field as a project manager/ business consultant. I would love to meet even if it’s for a short coffee chat. I will dm you. :) 

Quote from @Seo Hui Han:

A HELOC and a Home Equity Loan are the same thing.

I have an excellent residential mortgage broker who can help you with this, he's based in Orange County. I wouldn't recommend him for anything investment-related or commercial, but if it's just a HELOC on your primary, he'll do an excellent job.

Just don't go to Lending Tree or any of that nonsense.  I made that mistake once, the calls wouldn't stop for months.

Thanks for your reply! I will dm you :)

I was recently laid off and have accumulated about $20,000 in credit card debt, primarily from paying last year's property taxes and covering a few months of living expenses. I own a house with approximately $400,000 in equity, and I'm considering tapping into this equity while I search for a new job. Until now, I had a great credit score, but I'm concerned that my increased debt might affect my ability to obtain a HELOC or a Home Equity Loan.

A lender approached me, claiming they could help me secure a HELOC, but the encounter felt coincidental, making me feel vulnerable. I've had negative experiences with a bad general contractor and a non-paying renter (leading to an eviction), so I'm being extra cautious in selecting the right lender this time.

Could anyone recommend a trustworthy lender in the Los Angeles area who can guide me through this difficult time? Also, which option would make sense for me: a HELOC or a Home Equity Loan?

I appreciate any input from fellow BPers. Thank you. 

Quote from @David C.:
Quote from @Joyce Kim:

I've reached out to the office about 2 hours ago, but no one answered the phone. I left my number but haven't received a call back yet. I guess I have to wait till they call me back. 

So far, I've received quotes ranging from $3k to $5k plus an hourly rate for court appearances. I'm willing to pay for the service as I urgently need an attorney's help, but it seems like lawyers are not taking new cases easily. They keep charging me for consultations without taking the case. 😭

Do you have an estimate of their charges for this type of case and whether they are affordable? If exact figures aren't available, could you let me know if they charge a fixed fee per case, hourly, or per court appearance?

Thank you!


Sorry to hear about your difficulties.

I'm in their concierge service so get in a little faster.

Not sure what affordable is since every case is different.  From a cost perspective imo it's most cost efficient to find somebody with a lot of evection experience in your area.

You might try Stelnick Law in Valencia .  They did a good job for us in a difficult eviction.  They practice in los angeles even though they are in Valencia.


 Thanks for your referral! Currently Stelnick Law is working on my case and it's going really well. :) 

I've reached out to the office about 2 hours ago, but no one answered the phone. I left my number but haven't received a call back yet. I guess I have to wait till they call me back. 

So far, I've received quotes ranging from $3k to $5k plus an hourly rate for court appearances. I'm willing to pay for the service as I urgently need an attorney's help, but it seems like lawyers are not taking new cases easily. They keep charging me for consultations without taking the case. 😭

Do you have an estimate of their charges for this type of case and whether they are affordable? If exact figures aren't available, could you let me know if they charge a fixed fee per case, hourly, or per court appearance?

Thank you!

My tenant has not been paying rent for four months now and refuses to vacate.

I've posted and mailed 3-day notices, and uploaded them to the LAHD website four times already. I finally received a demand letter from a "nonprofit attorney" representing the tenant, claiming that the tenant was living in uninhabitable conditions—typical for a non-paying tenant, I guess—and now she wants to "renegotiate" the rent and keep living in the same space.

She has been filing complaints with various government departments, but all the cases were minor and have been closed. I've personally communicated with the inspectors, and they are aware of how the tenant is trying to manipulate the situation. Fortunately, all three inspectors (from different departments) were very supportive and one inspector even stated they will not return, even if another complaint is filed.

I want to offer a cash-for-keys option, but since the tenant's attorney is from a nonprofit, I feel she will fight for her tenant to stay. I need to respond to the attorney's demand letter and almost want to go to court, even if it takes six months to evict her. I think I have a good case, but it's really hard to find an attorney to take it nowadays—all the good ones are fully booked and hard to reach.

Any suggestions or recommendations on how to approach this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I am a new landlord. Additionally, if you have any referrals to good eviction lawyers who can take my case, I would be very grateful.

Thank you so much for your help.

My tenant has not been paying rent for four months now and refuses to vacate.

I've posted and mailed 3-day notices, and uploaded them to the LAHD website four times already. I finally received a demand letter from a "nonprofit attorney" representing the tenant, claiming that the tenant was living in uninhabitable conditions—typical for a non-paying tenant, I guess—and now she wants to "renegotiate" the rent and keep living in the same space.

She has been filing complaints with various government departments, but all the cases were minor and have been closed. I've personally communicated with the inspectors, and they are aware of how the tenant is trying to manipulate the situation. Fortunately, all three inspectors (from different departments) were very supportive and one inspector even stated they will not return, even if another complaint is filed.

I want to offer a cash-for-keys option, but since the tenant's attorney is from a nonprofit, I feel she will fight for her tenant to stay. I need to respond to the attorney's demand letter and almost want to go to court, even if it takes six months to evict her. I think I have a good case, but it's really hard to find an attorney to take it nowadays—all the good ones are fully booked and hard to reach.

Any suggestions or recommendations on how to approach this issue would be greatly appreciated, as I am a new landlord. Additionally, if you have any referrals to good eviction lawyers who can take my case, I would be very grateful.

Thank you so much for your help.

Post: Order to comply and Tenant eviction

Joyce KimPosted
  • Granada Hills, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 1

Just for an update... 

I was busy addressing tenant and order to comply issues, so I haven't been active in this forum for a while. Thank you so much for all of your advices. Yes, I made many mistakes, not protecting my investment and hard-earned money. Thankfully, all of the order to comply issues were minor and the cases are now closed. The inspectors were supportive, and one of them even stated they wouldn't return, even if another complaint is filed. Now, I am preparing to file an eviction case.

It's pretty hard to find a good eviction lawyer in the Los Angeles area since many are backed up with so many eviction cases. I would appreciate any referrals for a decent eviction lawyer. Wish me luck...

Post: Structuring the right deal?

Joyce KimPosted
  • Granada Hills, CA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Bryant Brislin:

Who is going to get the construction loan and be the guarantor for it? For the amount of work that the developer/builder partner will put into it, 20% might be low (especially if they are going to be the guarantor for the loan), but if they are willing to take that, then good for you. No one can tell you the potential value of the lots without knowing the site development costs, city/DWP fees and what the homes could ultimately sell for.  Very roughly, if the homes would sell for $1MM each and assuming the land is flat and without significant site development costs, I would say the lots might be worth 200-300k each with the final map recorded. Again, it all depends on what part of LA we are talking about? Van Nuys? Echo Park? Hollywood? Northridge? To put things in perspective, I have sold about fifty small lot tract maps throughouth LA over the past 15 years. 


If they were to be the guarantor for the construction loan, how much should I offer? The developer wants me to throw the number first. I need to set up my BATNA before the negotiation... 

The lot is in North Hollywood R1 Zone. 

Thank you for sharing your expertise.