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All Forum Posts by: Josh Wickboldt

Josh Wickboldt has started 2 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: Cash-Out Refinance on Primary

Josh Wickboldt
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Homer, AK
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

I'm looking at doing a cash-out refinance on my Primary residency.  The plan is to use that cash for a down payment for another primary residency and renting out my current place within a year.  I have lived at my current place for 3 years now, but I have one lender saying if I do a cash-out refinance I will have to stay for a year and another telling me I will not because I have lived there 3 years and it's just a cash-out refinance and not a purchase.  So just trying to see which one is right??

Post: Primary residence loan rule for occupancy?

Josh Wickboldt
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Homer, AK
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Josh Wickboldt:
Quote from @Chris Mason:
Quote from @Josh Wickboldt:

I am working with a lender and trying to pull some cash out of my primary home, which is a triplex that I house hack. I am deciding between cash out refinance and a HELOC. One lender tells my for their cash out refinance I do not need to live in a year after refinancing but another lender believes that person is mistaken because it's a primary residency loan. Just trying to get clarification if that rule is applied to all primary loans or just loans that go through Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

https://singlefamily.fanniemae...

The paragraph you are looking for is paragraph 6, for both my state (California) and your state (Alaska). That's the document you will sign at the closing table, refi or purchase. Note that there's an extenuating circumstance clause, but if you're planning for it today then it's almost certainly not an "extenuating circumstance beyond [your] control." 

That's for the cash out refi.

For the HELOC, there is more variance, each bank/lender is doing their own thing. You may find that such a clause does not exist. You may also find that, after the HELOC lender is notified that you changed your homeowner's insurance to be a landlord policy, the HELOC is simply cut off entirely.


Yes I get that I do not have to live there if I go with a HELOC. My question was for if that requirement to live in a year (other than extenuating circumstances) applies to non QM lenders or protfolio lenders, or is just for those QM lenders like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.


To be clear, in this situation I would be going with a cash-out refinance and then trying to buy another place to live in as a primary.  

Post: Primary residence loan rule for occupancy?

Josh Wickboldt
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Homer, AK
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Chris Mason:
Quote from @Josh Wickboldt:

I am working with a lender and trying to pull some cash out of my primary home, which is a triplex that I house hack. I am deciding between cash out refinance and a HELOC. One lender tells my for their cash out refinance I do not need to live in a year after refinancing but another lender believes that person is mistaken because it's a primary residency loan. Just trying to get clarification if that rule is applied to all primary loans or just loans that go through Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

https://singlefamily.fanniemae...

The paragraph you are looking for is paragraph 6, for both my state (California) and your state (Alaska). That's the document you will sign at the closing table, refi or purchase. Note that there's an extenuating circumstance clause, but if you're planning for it today then it's almost certainly not an "extenuating circumstance beyond [your] control." 

That's for the cash out refi.

For the HELOC, there is more variance, each bank/lender is doing their own thing. You may find that such a clause does not exist. You may also find that, after the HELOC lender is notified that you changed your homeowner's insurance to be a landlord policy, the HELOC is simply cut off entirely.


Yes I get that I do not have to live there if I go with a HELOC. My question was for if that requirement to live in a year (other than extenuating circumstances) applies to non QM lenders or protfolio lenders, or is just for those QM lenders like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Post: Primary residence loan rule for occupancy?

Josh Wickboldt
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Homer, AK
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 1

I am working with a lender and trying to pull some cash out of my primary home, which is a triplex that I house hack. I am deciding between cash out refinance and a HELOC. One lender tells my for their cash out refinance I do not need to live in a year after refinancing but another lender believes that person is mistaken because it's a primary residency loan. Just trying to get clarification if that rule is applied to all primary loans or just loans that go through Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac.