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All Forum Posts by: Joshua B.

Joshua B. has started 28 posts and replied 287 times.

Post: Best way to handle multiple offers as a seller

Joshua B.Posted
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So this may end up being a bit premature and overly hopeful on my end, but I will be listing a property in the next month in an incredibly hot market - Ann Arbor, MI. A friend of a friend just sold his house a mile down the road and had 40 showings and 17 offers. 

Given the price point I'm listing at and the inventory levels, there's a decent chance I get multiple offers. 

My question is this - what's the best way to maximize the sales price in a multiple offer situation? Tell everyone to submit highest and best by ____ date? Pick one strong buyer and make a counter-offer? Pick a few of the best offers and negotiate only with the few?

Post: Before and after pics of flip I just finished! Westland Michigan

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Nice work @Keith Jourdan! Awesome "find" with regard to that extra 300 square feet. Please update when it sells. I'm interested to see how the Westland market is doing these days for flips.

Post: University of Michigan top in county...

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@Lily Li It's very easy to rent a house in Plymouth, although it's very difficult to actually buy a house that will meet the 1% rule. Where in Plymouth are you buying?

Post: Setting up an LLC in Michigan

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Originally posted by @Renee Bacon:

@Jason Rogers We are having the same questions here. We're using a HELOC to purchase, and are on the fence as to whether to get the LLC set up first and purchase with that, or just buy in our own name. I guess we have more research to do. I await an answer to your question!

Using a HELOC from your personal account shouldn't be a problem. After all, almost every business gets initial funding from the owner. I would take two steps:

1) Make an initial contribution to your business account so that the business has at least some capital ($1,000 would probably suffice).

2) Then, make the separate HELOC contribution for the amount you plan on using to buy the property.

If you plan on keeping the HELOC contribution in the business long-term (i.e. a buy and hold property), you can draw up a contribution agreement between you and the LLC. If you plan on pulling the money back out after closing (flip), you could just make note of the loan in your accounting records. If you wanted to go the extra mile beyond simply a note in your accounting records, you could draw up a loan agreement and promissory note, but that may be overkill since, with a single-member LLC, you are the borrower and the lender. This step should definitely be taken, though, if there are other members in the LLC or shareholders in the corporation.

Post: Setting up an LLC in Michigan

Joshua B.Posted
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@Jason Rogers Bear in mind that an LLC doesn't do you any good if you don't treat it like its own business. Just putting a property in an LLC isn't enough. You need to run the business of that property through the LLC that owns the property. Funding repairs out of your own pocket or another entity, making mortgage payments from your personal account, taking rent checks into a different account, etc, can allow the corporate veil to be pierced. That means if you get sued, courts won't give you the liability protection that an LLC normally affords. Make sure the LLC has its own bank account, that receivables/payables go through that account, and that you keep good corporate/legal records.

Post: Post-offer jitters - advice needed on condo value

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Beware the condo association fees killing your chance at hitting the 1% rule.

Post: Multiple Family Members Owning Property in Michigan

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If your dad was the only one who was paying anything (no financial support from the other siblings/owners) and now he's behind on taxes, then it's only a matter of time until it goes into tax foreclosure. Might as well find out exactly how far behind the taxes are, explain that to the siblings, then make a minimal offer to buy them out. Make sure you work the back taxes into your buy-out offer, though.

Awesome work, @Sarah Lorenz. Happy to help out a little bit on this one.

I will say, though - this deal is making me sad that I didn't go after those 3 buildable lots on Maple a little while back. 

Post: Metro Detroit Flip. BEFORE and AFTER PICS!!

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@Keith Jourdan - looks great. I hope it sells high and fast! Feels a lot brighter with the change from lots of brown to lots of white.

As an aside, what is a good number of showings to have in the first two or three days after listing for this area? I had similar numbers of showings and was unsure if it was high, low, or in the middle. I only have my license for personal buying/selling and I don't do much outside of that to give me the context for assessing showing volume.

Post: Under water on house- Is forclosure an option?

Joshua B.Posted
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Originally posted by @John Backus:
Originally posted by @Greg H.:
Originally posted by @Bob B.:

What would happen if everyone walked away from their financial obligations just because they were underwater?

We don't share the appreciation on our properties with the banks and we should not walk away from them when they don't go as well as we expect.

I'm not saying you are less than honorable, but foreclosure should be the last thing suggested.

The OP appears to have done everything.  He could have walked away when he owed $100,000+ and the house next door sold for $4,500

Since he purchased in 2006, he has easily paid $10,000+ in MIP(Mortgage Insurance Premiums) and probably $1000s in above market interest to the lender.

Millions have walk away from homes while doing much less so let's not pass judgment.  And no, I have very rarely borrowed money in my life and have not been foreclosed on 

 Thanks. I would like to believe I have done everything I can to NOT walk away from my obligations. My credit score is high because I always DO pay my bills, and have never been delinquent on an account in my life. At the end of the day though I have a family, and I am not exactly going to sell off our current home and put us on the street because I really want to pay back the bank. And just for the record, we may not share the appreciation on our properties but that certainly doesn't mean banks are eating all the costs when things go south. In case people have forgotten, when banks go under taxpayers like myself bail them out. I'm not the type to use that as an excuse to not pay my bills, but please don't try to make it out like banks are some innocent victims that wouldn't dare put their burdens on others when things don't work out.

Back on topic though, while I am willing to look at all possibilities, I really don't think my property manager is the issue. She has been pretty good to me, she has been the one covering the cost of the expensive repairs as it is and letting me pay her back in payments interest free. The house is just in terrible shape, our first realtor took us for a ride.

The front porch was leaning badly and sinking into the ground. She was concerned not only that it was a safety hazard which could get a sued, but also it was starting to come down and if it fell it would have torn the front awning down with it. This is a photo before it got really bad, and you can see it leaning in the bottom right. So $6,000 later we replaced it. 

porch now

Here are the most recent photos she sent of the roof.

I'll be honest I have no idea how it got that bad, it was in good shape in when we moved in 2008. Bad storms I'm guessing.

Here's just a few of the basement photos she sent

I don't think she is wrong about any of the repairs being necessary, I just can't afford them. And that's the issue. I would just leave tenants in the home until I pay off enough of the loan to sell it, but the tenants are complaining and at some point here I won't even be able to have renters, and the home is only going to decrease in value as it falls apart.

The $60,000 quote came from a market analysis the property manager had done on the home, and it is right in there with every AP like zillow etc (I know they aren't typically accurate, but the market analysis should be). And in the state the home is in now I doubt it could even be sold for the $60,000. There's just no way around it, in 11 years all we have done is lose money on the house.

Thanks for all the help. I will PM the address to the Lansing guys and see what they think. At this point it looks like a real estate attorney is my best bet.

 Since you're out of money, I'd get a good realtor to approach the bank about doing a short sale. Tell them (and show them) that you're broke and let them know that if they don't do a short sale you'll walk away. Then, if they agree, great. If not, let it go. 

There is nothing unethical about walking away from a property. Both a bank and a buyer know going in what the deal is. Everyone is well aware that a bank can foreclose if payments aren't made and that a buyer can walk away if he runs out of money.