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All Forum Posts by: Josh Taylor

Josh Taylor has started 7 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Alina Trigub:

@Josh Taylor

If you're just starting out I suggest you reach out to a mortgage broker. While you'll have to pay for the services, these folks can help you significantly cut the time spent on searching for a loan and can assist you finding what you're looking for!

Im pretty sure I can't ask for recommendations on here per forum rules correct? If so, could you message me if you can recommend any?

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @John Corey:

Shop around and get to understand the lenders better. Cash out refinancing on a commercial property is different than SFR. They want the rent roll to season so they can see that the rents are stable at a level before they will lend on that income stream. Hence the 2 years. It is more about how consistent the rents are than exactly 2 years. Commercial lenders are really lending on the income stream and not on the structure. The structure only has value because of the current and projected income stream.

Look for a portfolio lender who can advise you on which of their products are best. They may have a loan program that will work by cross colateralizing the land and the 10 unit property. Or, they have a purchase product with a draw down facility if you complete some refurbishment. 

I would not be in a rush to buy until you have figured out your loan options. If you fail to clear the 12 month loan secured by a lot, you will face a foreclosure. That will kill any refinance on the 10 unit property.

Time to do your homework.

I can always borrow the money from my parents to clear my equity line out for a couple weeks, and then pull it back off if need be. I definitely wouldn't even consider a foreclosure. Im thinking of selling some farm equipment I have to pay the equity line off completely if I go this route. That would allow me to have the line open for other properties. Im definitely going to do my homework. 

Still learning on how to scale up on properties. I really have a desire to go the multifamily route and being so near a great college will really help this property. From the investigation ive done so far, it seems that the current owners inherited the property and just haven't raised rates in years.

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Anthony Johnson:

Have you thought about financing the rehabs?   Talked to a commercial lender yesterday and this product is available.    Save the credit line for  something else, maybe another deal, and use your cash for the down payment.  

Yes but i dont have 100k DP liquid at this time. I did but i bought my last rental property cash. I have 100k equity in it but it is a Doublewide home so banks ive talked to won't use ut as collateral. I had to buy it bc it boarders my property and the renters the po's had in there were terrible, and they were going to run my renters off in another property I have next door.

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Shonari Wynter:

@Josh Taylor did you find this on the MLS?

No. A local wholesaler has an assignment on the property 

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Brent Shryock:

Typically I see 2 years as pretty standard from my lending partners. They are also getting more strict on this and some are requiring longer periods before allowing a true LTV not LTC constrained cash out. The reason is they do not want to cash out (on value not cost) somebody that has not created "value" and is trying to cash out because they are getting a cap rate lower based on nothing more than the hot market.

Thanks for the reply. I do have alot of room for rent increases on all of the units, as they are well below market. Also, owner is paying for electricity on 2 of the units, and all water and sewer, so there is room for lowering expenses also. I definitely think with some updates and management changes this is a good starter valve add for my wife and I to get into the multifamily business.

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Greg Dickerson:

@Josh Taylor you should definitely talk to several banks. They all have different programs rates and terms. 

Thanks for the suggestion. I definitely plan to this week

Post: Commercial Seasoning Period For Cash Out Refi?????

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11

Im am looking at a 10 unit apartment property for my 1st multifamily. It is near a good college,only 30mins from me, and is below market rents. I have a LOC on some land I own clear, and I plan on using it for the down payment, then use some cash to make over the units. My problem is that the type of credit on my land has to be zeroed out every 12 months. One bank I talked to requires 2 yrs before they will do a cash out refi. Is this the standard seasoning peorid on commercial loans? Or do I need to find another bank?

Post: Dangers of roaches in multi unit?

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11

I eent and looked at a triplex the other day that the upstairs unit was absolutely infested with roaches! It was nasty. They supposedly had already treated the property 4 times

Post: How to calculate ARV for apartments?

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Maurice Lightner:

@Christopher Giannino

Thanks for responding. I was using NOI to make sure the numbers work, but I also want to see how I can evaluate a property after I rehab it if I wanted to refinance with a bank or sell it within 2-3 years.

I believe its by lowering expenses and fixing the property up to be able to raise rents, which will essentially raise NOI, making the property worth more.

Post: How to calculate ARV for apartments?

Josh TaylorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Olin, NC
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 11

I was told they also use actual comps of other like size apartments to compare to along with NOI too. Not sure though. Still learning