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All Forum Posts by: Josh Ricord

Josh Ricord has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Trey Belmore:

Hi Josh- this sounds like a great plan to get started in real estate investing! A couple things to keep in mind that you may have already vetted out but wanted to bring to your attention:

1) Have you already selected a contractor who can help prepare the bids for you when you identify a property? FHA 203K can be pretty involved and it is important to have all your ducks in a row to ensure you're setting yourself up for success. Have you spoken to a trusted lender about the process? FHA 203K loans will typically require a 203K consultant to overview the project as well. your lender should be able to assist with this. There is always an option to go with a Conventional Homestyle renovation loan. This is not as involved as a 203K renovation loan, but it does require 5% down versus 3.5% down. Here is a 203k consultant list: https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/f17cnsltdata.cfm

2) Are you prepared to cover the closing costs in addition to the down payment? Closing costs can be another 2-3% of the sales price in addition to the 3.5% down payment. However, there are strategies to get the seller to cover some or all of the closing costs through seller concessions which would reduce your out of pocket expense.

3) I would use your real estate license and MLS access to find comps in the areas you're interested in to estimate the ARV of any prospective homes. This is super valuable information and insight when searching for your first investment property. You have full access to see what similar homes with similar finish outs of your final product are selling for to back into an accurate ARV.

4) Lastly, as someone who has house hacked myself I would make sure you understand how a lender will analyze your second property. Would your intent be to purchase this property and live there for a year then rent it out to purchase another primary residence? If this is the case, it is important to note that a lender will generally need a 12 month lease on the departing residence in order to use 75% of the lease amount to offset that departing mortgage payment. It is a great plan to rent it out now room by room to maximize profit, but this is difficult to source from a lender's perspective when it comes time to purchase a second home. Hopefully, that makes sense. if not, feel free to reach out and I can certainly expand on it.


 Goodmorning sir! Thank you reaching out and passing along not only some great advice, but some thought provoking points. 

1) Fantastic Point. I think early investors like myself like to think in theory versus actually getting all our ducks in a row to make valuable and educated action. I will most definitely work to start sourcing good, investor friendly lenders and use the resources you provided to find good 203K advisors. That really brings into perspective it’s more than just a plan- you need smart and tangible action. Do you have a plan suggestions/small tips as I look for my first investment? 

2) I was looking to represent myself on the buyer side to reduce some of these upfront hard money costs, but as a new investor I’m stuck between using a seasoned realtor or leveraging my current position. If electing for the realtor option, I can work with him/her to define some strategies in order to get the seller to cover some of the closing costs. Ultimately I can be more conscious of these additional hard money costs, and allocate funds accordingly. 

3) I completely agree here also. I am going to allocate some time daily to just run numbers on active deals. This will surely make me sharper when it comes to shooting offers on good deals that hopefully will yield good return for my first investment/primary residence. What is some primary things you look for when analyzing a deal? 

4) Very interesting points, I have never thought of it that way. Would I need to build more tangible equity in the property to make it more advantageous for lenders to authorize a refinance/ secondary loan? What advice to do you have to navigating that obstacle? 

Thank you so much for not only tossing over some encouragement, but also providing some situational reality as well. It’s easy to speak of a plan, but to execute with precision and tangible educated thought is hard. Appreciate it so much, and will keep you updated on my future endeavors! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Jason Allen:

You know your market better than us. If you think you can fill it with your estimated rents, go for it. You might want to start with a small single family (like a 3 bed 1 bath) and fill the other rooms with your friends.

Preliminary advice - run the numbers, if it makes sense jump into it, but don't be afraid to shop.

You should use your real estate license for the down payment. I believe FHA allows 3.5% down? You automatically have 3 percent down as a commission.

@Jason Allen

Thanks for reaching out sir! I am currently shooting for a 3 Bed, 2 Bath with good bones and some leeway to transform it cosmetically/update. I will definitely be placing heightened emphasis on running my numbers accurately and realistically. Also, good point on the commission I didn't think of that! If possible, sourcing and working the deal myself may eliminate some of those hard cash requirements on the front end. Thanks again for stopping by and dropping some nuggets of knowledge!

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Paul Welden:
Quote from @Josh Ricord:

@Paul Welden Paul, I plan on using around 10-12k of my savings on a down payment + closing (will escape buyer agent costs as I'll be representing myself.) Average comps of sound 3 bed 2 bath homes sit in the 250,000/300,00 range in my area. I will set aside the other 8k for cap ex/nest egg. Plan on this being a live in renovation, ultimately preparing for the fall semester in August when tenants would move in. 

For as future investments, prospectively speaking, if I am able to Net 0 on my primary residence, build sweat equity and then pay into a second investment savings fund; my goal is too get into a second investment after year one. For context I make 80k at my W2 job, so it allows some room for investment savings, but nothing crazy. 

Let me know what you think! Would a turn key residence be better for my first house hack compared to a simple renovation backed by a FHA 203K loan? What advice do you have for how to attack getting this first investment? I really appreciate the time you've taken to respond to my post and any advice/knowledge you'd be willing to share. Thanks Paul!

 @Josh Ricord

Your strategy may be tight financially, but if you can be strict with minimizing your extra curricular spending and keep saving money, you should be ok. 

You'll need to interview lenders to ensure they are well-versed with the 203k and work well with your personality. There are 2 databases of these 203k lenders called the FHA Lender List and the 203k Endorsement Summary Report.

There are also contractors who have earned the accreditation as a Certified 203k Contractor that are not only educated on the 203k but also financially vetted. 

Go out there, find your "diamond in the rough" and start creating your generational wealth! 

Hope this helps

@Paul Welden

Paul, thank you so much again for reaching out and sharing those resources with me. Definitely something I will be looking at in my journey to this first investment. I will definitely work to limit expenses and tuck away as much cushion funds for the upfront and during reno expenses. Can't wait to keep you updated on the journey. Cheers! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Josh Ricord

Welcome to the world of real estate investing! It sounds like you have a solid plan in place, and I'll provide some insights and advice based on your questions:

Maximizing Investment Longevity:
It's a smart move that you're house hacking with an FHA 203K loan, remodeling for appreciation, and then refinancing to extract equity for other investments. Make an effort to gradually assemble a varied portfolio in order to optimize lifespan. To disperse risk and improve long-term growth potential, think about investing in a variety of property kinds, regions, and asset classes.

Feasibility of the Plan:
An experienced investor would see your idea as well-thought-out and doable, especially in light of the local need for student accommodation. To maintain profitability, it's essential to carry out in-depth market research, closely monitor remodeling expenditures, and do due diligence on prospective properties.

Preliminary Advice for First-Time Investors:
Become knowledgeable: By reading books, listening to podcasts, using internet tools, and connecting with seasoned investors, you may keep up your real estate investment education.
Start modest: Start small and increase your investments gradually as you acquire confidence and expertise.
Network: Make connections with other investors, real estate experts, and mentors who can offer advice, encouragement, and insightful perspectives.
Make a good plan: Make a thorough investment strategy with precise objectives, deadlines, and exit tactics. Review your strategy often and make any necessary adjustments.

Using Your Real Estate License to Your Advantage:
You have access to the MLS and valuable market data, which can help you identify potential investment opportunities and negotiate favorable deals.
Leverage your network
Offer your expertise and assistance to clients and investors

Overall, it seems like you're on the right track with your investment plan. Stay focused, continue learning, and don't hesitate to seek guidance from experienced investors or mentors along the way. Best of luck on your real estate journey, and feel free to reach out if you have any further questions!

 @Wale Lawal

Thank you for responding to my discussion Wale! I truly appreciate you encouragement, advice, and future pointers as I jump headfirst into this game we call real estate. I loved your points on sharpening your skills through education, making educated decisions through correctly running numbers on both renos/investments, and then your suggestions for the future landscape. These are all things that have been reinforced as a foundation when reading your response. Thank you so much for taking the time to share! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Brie Schmidt

Brie, thank you for stopping by and giving me some extremely helpful tips. Like you referenced in your original post, the homestyle renovation loan, with similar down payment options and more flexibility for future investments is definitely an avenue I am now adding to my list for consideration. I may also feel out some investor friendly realtors to potentially advise on this first deal. Considering a seasoned agent who could possibly suggest contractors, lenders, etc. may be more beneficial than both the commission/savings on the front end. Thank you once again for your advice as it has assisted in sharpening my tools and perspective related to my first deal! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Ash Hegde

Thanks for reaching out man! Definitely going to place emphasis on the net zero goal and general investment appreciation. That sets up a more feasible goal for my first investment, while allowing my to store funds both for cap ex and also that second investment. Once again, I appreciate the engagement! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Matthew Porcaro

Thank you so much for reaching out and tossing both some encouragement and some advice. Like you said, I will devote more emphasis on evaluating deals, making more competitive offers, and doing my due diligence when sourcing a contractor that can parallel my goals. Can't wait to take these suggestions and apply it to my current plan. Thank you so much again! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Helen Barton

Thank you for you encouragement and response Helen! I definitely will keep that advice in mind as I begin to network with my peers in both the reality and investment industries! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Tanner Lewis

Thanks for reaching out Tanner! A 203K loan with the small amount of equity upfront would be the way I am leaning towards currently. I think building equity through the rehab itself and then house hacking each room would give me the biggest avenue to maximize savings/equity for that potential second property. I think as long as I can net zero and build sweat equity, it would give me the best avenue to really build another investment fund. If you have any other pointers or starting tips, feel free to reach out. Thank you again sir! 

Post: First Post College Investment- FHA 203K House Hack

Josh RicordPosted
  • Investor
  • Thomasville, GA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 11

@Paul Welden Paul, I plan on using around 10-12k of my savings on a down payment + closing (will escape buyer agent costs as I'll be representing myself.) Average comps of sound 3 bed 2 bath homes sit in the 250,000/300,00 range in my area. I will set aside the other 8k for cap ex/nest egg. Plan on this being a live in renovation, ultimately preparing for the fall semester in August when tenants would move in. 

For as future investments, prospectively speaking, if I am able to Net 0 on my primary residence, build sweat equity and then pay into a second investment savings fund; my goal is too get into a second investment after year one. For context I make 80k at my W2 job, so it allows some room for investment savings, but nothing crazy. 

Let me know what you think! Would a turn key residence be better for my first house hack compared to a simple renovation backed by a FHA 203K loan? What advice do you have for how to attack getting this first investment? I really appreciate the time you've taken to respond to my post and any advice/knowledge you'd be willing to share. Thanks Paul!