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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Zane Vandergriff

Joseph Zane Vandergriff has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: First Cash-out Refi Yields Rental

Joseph Zane Vandergriff
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Johnson City TN
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 5

Hey BP! Long time lurker and knowledge sponge here. 

I started the process at the beginning of January to do a Cash Out Refi on my private residence. The plan since initial purchase back in Feb of 2020 was to live in the house and do as much DIY'ing as possible to increase the value. After the 2 year "has to stay primary residence clause" (which is met this coming Feb) this property would be my first rental in the area, and utilizing the cash out refi, would give me the money to move into my next property without any extra out of pocket money.

I'll be sure to come back and update this for any newcomers that want to hear from beginners or are still in the "learning before you leap" mindset.

I'll list the purchase info and criteria as well as the rental potential in the area and the cash out refi results below.

Initial Purchase:

3 bed / 1 bath / 1000sqft / 0.46acre / built in 1980 - Appraised at $140,000 in Johnson City, TN - Feb. 2020

Credit Score at the time: 648 (This was a focus of mine as I had been repairing previously damaging years in my early 20's)

Purchase Price: $132,000 using an FHA 30-year loan at 4.625% / Closing costs from me $4,666.63 / After all fees and closing starting mortgage amount was $129,609.00 / Monthly Principle, Interest, Escrow (Insurance, Property Tax, Mortgage Insurance) payment: $869.12

Rental Potential:

Johnson City TN is home to East Tennessee State University and close to Bristol TN for all you NASCAR and drag racing fans. Since it's located just a short 3.5 mile drive to ETSU campus as well as the VA hospital, Instates, Shopping and Restaurants, it's a great area for rental property, it's also just far enough away from all that to be surrounded by quiet fields and mountain views. Looking at current comps in the area for similar property type and quality positions this property to confidently be rented at $1450 per month. As everything sits now, after all expenses including mortgage payment, maintenance, capex, vacancy, etc... this property at the above rate will profit $464 per month!

Cash Out Refi Expectations:

After a brief conversation with my mortgage broker and going over quick numbers and some market research on their end, the expectation so far is the new value of the home should be around $188,000 - $195,000. These are loose figures and I was told due to the market it could be even higher but I don't like to plan for higher, I'd rather be surprised than disappointed. This should yield around $25,000 - $35,000 cash back to me after doing 80% Loan to Value. If we factor in the lower interest rate and losing the mortgage insurance, even with the higher mortgage amount, the monthly payment itself for the house and escrow should only increase by about $40-$50 a month! It helps that I've continued to improve my credit score to help get those lower rates which I believe should be sitting around 740-750 now.

I'll update this with hard numbers after the refi is complete! Feel free to ask any questions and I'll do my best to answer them and help anyway I can.

Post: Hi Everyone! New East TN Investor

Joseph Zane Vandergriff
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Johnson City TN
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 5

@Derek Tellier

I might be able to come, I'll have to check and see if I'll be out of town that week for work. If I can make it, then I most definitely will.

Post: Hi Everyone! New East TN Investor

Joseph Zane Vandergriff
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Johnson City TN
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 5

@Craig Wilcox

That sounds awesome Craig. Feel free to message me on here once your relocation and finished and you're all settled in!

Post: Hi Everyone! New East TN Investor

Joseph Zane Vandergriff
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Johnson City TN
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 5

@Andrew Stach I'm originally from Knoxville, my family owns a few rentals in the area but I don't yet have any that I'd call me own except for my primary residence. Knoxville is a good market as long as you know where to look and get deals in front of you before all the flippers.

I'm interested to see how your out of state investments go as well. Good luck!!

Post: Hi Everyone! New East TN Investor

Joseph Zane Vandergriff
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Johnson City TN
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 5

Hello All!

I'm a new member here on the BP platform and so far I'm loving it. I'm looking to begin investing in rental property/BRRRR at the top of the year. I have some financial goals to hit by EOY and I'm on track to do so. I'm currently a Territory Sales Manager for a aftermarket automotive supplier and have over 16 years in the automotive/corporate management field. I'm located in the Tri-Cities area of East TN so if anyone is around and wants to connect/debate/learn please feel free to reach out. I'd love to meet any and all in the area while I spend the next few months assembling my Core 4 team ( looking at you David Greene :) )