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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Shevy

Joseph Shevy has started 20 posts and replied 57 times.

Post: FINALLY closed on our first duplex!

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14

Hi BP,

Just thought I'd share my first success as a real estate investor!

My Fiance and I started looking to purchase a duplex back in January and closed on the property last night! It has been a long and stressful process and it finally happened. Best part about it was that we closed on the 31st, and rent is due today! Ive been contacting the tenants and am trying to arrange meetings for today and this weekend. Also working on meeting the seller to go over a few things with him. The tenants are great, the seller is being super helpful... so far so good! The rental was purchased through an FHA so one set of tenants will have to move out in the next month or two, but all in all.. we are getting things figured out!

I can now officially call myself a real estate investor! that sounds nice...

Joe

Hi BP,

Just a quick post to get some friendly advise on how to go about this situation..

I am closing on my first duplex on the 30th, (3 days), and there are tenants occupying both the top and bottom apartments. As you know, with a FHA loan, the residence must be owner occupied. The tenants leases don't expire until some time in summer.. July-August I think. I would rather live in the top because it rents for less and it would give my fiance and I the opportunity to fix it up a little and when we move out, possibly rent it for more.

Now my question is, How would you go about getting the tenants to move out possibly before their lease ends so you could move in? I could probably just wait for the lease to be up, but Id rather not take up space in my parents house for any longer than I have to.

thanks,

Joe

Post: How did you convince YOUR spouse about real estate's awesomeness?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14

These comments are fun to read! 

My Fiance and I are only on our first rental property, but I thought I'd share! 

I have been into real estate investing since college and right after when I started to prepare tax returns for people who had them, (I'm an accountant). That was a big point for me as I saw many people taking loads of deductions, still claiming a gain on their return, while holding down a W-2 job. 

Now fast forward to today, I am marrying my high school sweetheart in a few months and now that we are both young, out of college, and working our W-2 jobs, I thought now would be the ideal time to start looking into it. 

It took her a while to come around, but one of the deciding factors was that my accounting degree and her social work degree could only get us so far. Without having to work overtime every week, there wasn't too many ways to jump ahead for us. She also saw how our parents help us so much, and we want to be able to help our kids in the same way some day. Also, she sees that I talk about it non-stop, listen to pod-casts, read, and educate myself everyday during work, break, etc. I think this also helps her believe that we can be successful at this. 

Joe

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Andreas W.:

@Joseph Shevy

It also depends on the market you have. In my area duplexes, triplexes, and quads are mostly in less desirable areas. Those areas are improving but the duplexes I have inspected were text book cases for decades of deferred maintenance. The achieved rents didn't warrant much investment. On the other hand, here is a large pool of cash flowing SFRs.

 Great point. I know a lot of what I'm asking us area specific but I'm trying to learn how others see it. 

You all make great points. I'm glad to see all the feedback from bp. 

I guess a lot if my decision is based on cash flow and what tenants I can attract with certain sfr's in my area.

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Mathew Owens:

I am a CPA and full time real estate investor.  I have purchased over 400 single family homes and I purchase a multifamily per quarter/6 months.  I can tell you that for a beginning investor a single family home is the way to go to start off with.  There is a TON of learning that goes on when you first start owning real estate.  Property management is the #1 thing that will make or break you with either SFHs or multifamily properties and you really really do not want bad management in a multifamily, it compounds the problems.  If you are going to manage them yourself its very time intensive and for your first few you may want to go that route just because its really hard to find a good property manager.  The mistakes you make on multifamily properties as a beginner are by nature larger and cost more money.  Its great to learn this business doing a few smaller deals, understand the ins and outs, the tenant landlord laws, how to rehab your units for preventative maintenance, tenant headaches, etc.  

The maintenance aspect is the primary thing to look out for.  You have to make sure your roof, HVAC, furnace, appliances, plumbing, electrical, foundation, clean out piping to the street, etc are all taken care of and get a full inspection report.  Those are the items that will kill you in this business if not taken care of up front, especially on a single family. 

Hope this helps.

Matt

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thanks for all the feedback guys. Feels great getting some different perspectives, especially from seasoned investors. 

Mathew: I am actually starting my real estate investing in a duplex im in the process of closing on. Im getting it through an FHA loan, which means it must be owner occupied, as you know. The property seems like a great buy and has great cash flow potential. So, in a way, I feel like this is the best way for me to start out because, even though its a duplex, im still only managing one tenant-occupied unit. And another great point you made was the maintenance aspect. That is definitely something I really check out in properties. I have a few great connections for inspecting and fixing the "big" maintenance issues.

I guess I'm entertaining the idea of investing in a SFR next because I can put 20-25% down on one before the year is out, for the prices in my area. A nicer duplex, that will cashflow, probably not until next year. So, im just trying to gauge whether I should continue saving and be on the look out for a multifamily or SFR, assuming I can handle half a duplex first.

Joe

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Nick Versetto:

@Joseph Shevy  in my area multi units bring big money and sfr can he had for 1-200k and bring good cash flow if you buy it right.  I also like the appreciation factor of a sfr and option to eventually sell them with owner financing.

 Thanks for the Input, I hadn't thought of it like that 

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Richard C.:

I have 3. I have no multis. One really significant advantage is exit strategy. Any time I need to, I could sell a SFR to an owner occupant.

If I were trying to get rich in real estate, or even trying to make a living from real estate alone, I would probably buy multis.  As it is, one of my prime motivations is to be able to give each of my kids a house someday.  So SFRs work fine.

They do cash flow for me, and because I replace every major system, I have effectively zero maintenance calls, which is very important to me because I have a busy life with a job that requires frequent travel.

 That's good to know. If I could get a SF that cash flows for such a low price, I'd say why not?? But I'm mainly worried about finding tenants and whether they can cash flow as well as, say, a duplex. I mean.. If I have to put down 15k to acquire a 60k rental.. (Granted this is the low end) I would have a 45k loan.. Which is very cheap on a 30 yr fixed.. As opposed to a duplex or general multis going for over 100. But, a lot of this is area specific n I know that. 

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Nick Versetto:

I agree with @Jesse T. I plan on building the majority of my units with sfr.

 Can I ask why u like them as well? Thanks!

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

@Joseph Shevy  You can get SFRs in the Albany area that cash flow well?  I know the taxes are high up there which is the only reason I ask.

 Michael,

No not right in Albany. I actually haven't researched this area all that much.. But about 45 minutes north is where most of my family lives. This is where I plan on doing most of my investing. 

Post: thoughts on single family rentals?

Joseph ShevyPosted
  • Glens Falls, NY
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 14

hello everyone,

Have been looking more heavily into single family rentals because some can be picked up for relatively cheap around me. I was thinking of a SFR bring my next investment property for renting out. From your experiences, do you like them or do you tend to stay away from them? Why or why not? Pros vs cons? I'm interested in what you guys think! Thank you.