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All Forum Posts by: Joe Gravelle

Joe Gravelle has started 9 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

I just wanted to drop a note and say THANK YOU to everyone that responded amd added to the conversation. I appreciate all the feedback. Best wishes.

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

Thanks!

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

lots of good companies in all markets... check out Brie's website for reviews and listen to her pod cast with actual turn key buyers.... very specific to what you want to do .

 Jay what is Brie's website and the name of her podcast?

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

Gary,

Thanks for the information on both those companies. How do you think millenials will change your thoughts on the long term appreciation in the memphis market?

Will you were first buying houses with Midsouth and memphis invest, did you go visit them to see their operation and did you visit the cities and neighborhoods where you eventually purchased?

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Gary P.:

Hello @Joe Gravelle

There are many turnkey companies in Memphis. I have looked into both Memphis Invest and Midsouth and like the work they both do on the rehab side and would be happy to own properties from either of them. At this point I have 4 properties through Midsouth due primarily to entry price point and an added bonus that they wait patiently for financing to complete (my credit is over 800, my DTI easily covers the cost of all of these mortgages without considering the rents… but still, financing takes more time then I anticipate). I prefer the properties at the higher end of the Midsouth scale and am choosy about the neighborhoods.

Both companies take a process approach to the business and make effort to refine their process.

Memphis Invest farms the work out to contractors that specialize in the field: electricians for electrical, HVAC for HVAC, plumbers for plumbing… etc.

Midsouth maintains licensed staff on the payroll who perform or oversee the work.

As property managers, Midsouth has been responsive. I have had a couple of tenants get behind and one of them get caught almost back up to current. The other one had some life events and was experiencing financial distress. Midsouth demonstrates care and concern for their/our tenants and works with them through rough patches avoiding turnover. The financially distressed tenant was able to move in with family and, if all goes well, pay down the arrears and expenses. The unit was quickly prepared and leased to a new tenant.

Midsouth can be patient because they work with the starting point of the rent and figure backwards to sales price to investors and buy places that will meet those criteria and still make them at least the minimum profit they are looking for. As an investor the ratios remain consistent and predictable. As such the inventory seems to have a high demand. Midsouth uses a mail list, like waiting in line so everyone who is interested (new investors or investors with multiples) has an unrushed opportunity to become an investor.

I do not think of Memphis as an appreciation market, perhaps that is changing with millennials moving in. I will keep my projection strictly on the cash flow until proven otherwise.

Post: Out of State Investing via a turnkey operation

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

Hello BP'ers,

I am looking into investing out of state, specifically in Memphis and maybe Dallas. Has anyone had much success in this market? If so, what price points. 

I am looking into using one or a few of the turnkey operators. I am vetting Memphis Invest ( to enter the Memphis and Dallas areas) and MidSouth Home Buyers for Memphis only. Any feedback on these companies?

I appreciate the info in advance.

Post: Advice on terms for hard money lenders who are family

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

Maybe this question shouldn't be asked because they may be no difference in terms or options when dealing with family as hard money lenders, but just in case it is worth a shot:

When your private money-hard money lenders are family members, what terms do you offer them? Do you give them the same rate/return/terms that you would non-family investors?

I understand that professional level hard money lenders would most likely be more demanding and/or more discerning, but if all being the same, would you offer( or have you offered) different terms to family that you didn't or couldn't offer other hard money lenders?

Thanks in advance.

-Joe

Post: Wholesalers in the Denver Area?

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

Hello BP Community,

Just curious if anyone is or knows of any wholesalers in the Denver Metro Area? I'm looking for buy and hold SFR's below market value.

Thanks is advance

Post: Help I need counsel. What would you do?

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Micki M.:

@Joe Gravelle A good lender should be able to help you work through the different scenarios to find the best option for you. If you are moving into the new property a lender should be able to count at least 50-60% of your rental income to improve your DTI. Some lenders will require a written lease, but others will just do an appraised rent, it may depend on your location. Credit unions are my favorite for these types of scenarios. You may be able to pull a small HELOC on your primary and at interest only it shouldn't affect your DTI too much. Those are my thoughts, but talking to a lender will get you the best answers. Find one who is also an investor ( I'm happy to make recommendations since you're in CO).

 Mickie,

Thanks so much for the insight. I would love to take whatever recommendations you have for lenders who are also investors in the Denver area.

Again, thanks.

Post: Help I need counsel. What would you do?

Joe GravellePosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Westminster, CO
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 3

@Robert C.

A local credit you union gave me a home equity line up to 90 percent which I used to contribute to my rental property down payment. If I were to tap that again, I could get 50k.