Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Jose Castillo

Jose Castillo has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Originally posted by @Coral Hernandez:

Hey I agree with both the other post. It seems you have a couple different options at your disposal. It just the matter of talking them out and seeing which one works best.

Let's connect and brainstorm 

Let's talk. 

Originally posted by @Byron Scott:

I think a HELOC on your other property is one of your best options. If you think you can BRRRR it then you can do hard money and then look to refi before hard money us up and rehabs are done. Some hard money people ask for 10% down. Some are funding the rehab. Look into it. I would explore other options before I did hard money tho but if you think this deal is too good because location and opportunity I would look into hard money before I let it go by.

Those are very good options Byron. I will get in touch with some lenders. This property might fit a BRRRR!

Thank you.

Originally posted by @Anthony Dooley:

$14,000 in closing costs? I hope not. You don't need the money for repairs to buy the property. It sounds like you need $35,000 or so to close on the property. You could use equity from your other property, sell stuff like a car or motorcycle you don't use, get a personal loan from the bank, borrow from a friend or relative, borrow from a 401(k), or ask the seller to carry back financing on a portion of the purchase price in return for not asking for repairs or closing costs. If you are not using an agent, the seller is also saving money on commission. Those are some creative ways to get the down payment. Once you have the property, do repairs from your income and cash flow. 

I might have inflated that closing cost number a little bit for the calculator. I believe closing cost is about 3-7% of the price and I went closer to the highest possible number. Besides, there are no agents involved. I will only work with a lawyer. True, I don't need to have repairs money on hand: the cashflow should be enough to do repairs month by month. True, I plan the price as I will take on some repairs inside and outside of the property. Still, the downpayment might have to be around 20%. 

This is some good insight. Thank you.

Hello Bigger Pockets, 

I have a seller moving out of state and looking to off load some properties he owns. Today we did a walkthrough of a house I want to buy from him. I used bigger pockets calculator to analyze this deal. 

The property is a triplex; fully rented; total income is $3,950 (below market rate rents); expenses would be approximately 

$3,017; cash on cash roi would be 13.99%; purchase cap would be 9.56%.

I could remove some expenses to add an extra $300 to the monthly income, therefore increasing the coc and cap rate. 

My question to the BP community is, how do I come up with the down payment? I have $20,000 that I can use, but that would not be enough. I already own a triplex I bought last November with a 203K loan. This would be my second property, therefore an investment property. The down payment would be $50,000 or 20% and I would need $15,000 in repairs/upgrades plus closing cost of approximately $14,000

BP talks a lot about creative financing and borrowing from friends a relatives. If I find relatives willing to invest with me, what are the forms that I would give them? Are there any investors offering down payment assistance? Has anyone here used any small banks or credit unions providing this type of loans?  

Let me know below. 

Thank you!

Post: When will Real Estate Fail?

Jose CastilloPosted
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 7

@Kai Van Leuven

The fact that this post has generated a diversity of responses from all kinds of investors makes it a good one regardless of what anyone here thinks of it.

But, is this post a product of today culture of “content creation”? We all want to have that very creative post that (triggers) stimulates everyone’s reaction. Many others want to come up with bold predictions that may or may not matter, or make or not make any sense as long as is controversial.

Regardless of where this interesting well put together post come from or its intentions, it is a good one and brings to light a very good question.

The apocalyptic ending of the real estate industry as suggested in this post would be far, far, far from happening if ever. Who knows? Those who know, or believe to know, would be betting everything in their possession to cash in on it. To the last square inch in their name.

What your post fails to recognize is what real estate really is. The land and its natural resources and artificial structure will always be in demand. We need land for farming, manufacturing, logistics, housing, recreation, et cetera.

Comparing San Francisco, Dallas, Phoenix, New York City, Orlando, Boston, Tennessee, Los Angeles and to a small lead mining town would be preposterous. But that’s not the comparison that Kai used. Let’s look at few examples (concerns) in the post.

Driverless cars. Or other jobs being replaced by technology. Automation?

More than a hundred years ago we started replacing horse pulled cars with electric cars. Yes! Electric cars. It wasn’t till Henry Ford and the Rockefellers introduced the combustible car that we started using oil to power our motor vehicles. The only people who lost business were those in the horse carriage business that refused to adapt to the new changes.

Approximately 30% of car manufacturing jobs since the 80’s have been lost to automation. Alternative energy has eliminated coal mining jobs. Technology has eliminated many farming jobs (almost all of them). The number jobs in the rail road industry has decreased percentage wise since the late 1800’s because of automation.

We have lost millions of manufacturing jobs since the 1980’s and at a very fast pace since NAFTA was passed in 1993.

The entire industrial revolution eliminated millions and millions of jobs over generations, but on the same token it creates many many more.

Basic income? Stagnant income?

I am not an economist, but numbers seem to indicate that since the 70’ wages have not kept up with productivity nor inflation.

Now, many cities and states around the country have taken the initiative to increase the minimum wage. It’s only a matter of time before the federal government decides to increase the national minimum wage. It regardless of all this, millionaires are popping up literally everyday in this country. The way we make money has changed tremendously in the last 20 years. Who would’ve thought that an entire family with no skills whatsoever would make billions of dollars originating from a “leaked” sex tape from one its members? Just through reality television, sponsors, cosmetic products and social media. Speaking of social media, there are literally children making millions of dollars through social media apps as I type this. Many jobs and industries have been created during the last generation.

Can real estate fail?

The real estate industry has stood the test of time and cultural changes. The ups and downs of economies. Yes, real estate can fail in pockets. Take Michigan as an example of what can happen when an economy dependent on one specific industry loses that industry. Small lead and coal mining towns would be other very specific examples. Coal mining has been on a fast decline since the 70’s. Who knows what would happen if Silicon Valley corporations decided one day to move to...... Luxembourg? And most of its employees decided it would be best to virtually work from Wisconsin or somewhere in the Midwest. Yeah, real estate would fail in SILLICON VALLEY. That has happened many times in small pockets. When little lead mining town failed New York City didn’t even notice. Not Miami or Phoenix.

In conclusion I might be overly optimistic about real estate. I found it irritating every time you join a real estate group, forum or meeting and there is the one person or people that want to know “when is the next recession happening?”, or what are the speakers or members of the group doing to prepare for the next apocalyptic economic downfall. This question/topic of the next recession is now starting to become a synonym with real estate investing.

I am buying a 3-unit house. Two apartments and one storefront commercial unit. I will be moving into one of the apartments and renting the other apartment and the store. I am using a streamline 203K to repair the roof. The mortgage originator says I MUST pay $500 for a HUD consultant to inspect the job and sign off on it. All this because of the commercial unit.

Do I have to use a HUD consultant or can he submit the loan application without a consultant?

I have my first rental property under contract. I look forward to learning this app for my business. Speaking of mom, my mom has a 3-unit and will definitely benefit from this. 

Good insight! Thank you. 

@Nicole Heasley

Yes! Happy Friday!

@Nicole Heasley

I just signed a contract for a 3-unit property. First deal, first property, first side income in my 20 year career in the work force.

Having an app for managing certain aspects of my rental property sounds beyond amazing! And that’s an understatement.

As a user of the application, what can you tell me about its features? Which one are your favorites?

Thank you for sharing.

@Jessica Zolotorofe

Calling BIG to ask some questions. Thank you.