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All Forum Posts by: Jorge Esteban Vargas

Jorge Esteban Vargas has started 8 posts and replied 19 times.

Quote from @Joe S.:

When you say cut losses, do you mean give the property to the underlining lender or are you talking about selling as is?
I mean sell as is, I would disclose the subdivision issue as well. The good thing is the city told us and the other investors that they’re willing to work with us on this special case and right now we’re in the middle of conducting a survey to send to the city.
Quote from @Chad Hoffmann:

I would cut my losses and move on , can’t make money if your stuck, as far as dealing with county and waiting for permits ect the time is always more then anticipated  I could keep going on why I would cut my losses. That’s  just my opinion wish you the best of luck


 Appreciate your opinion. I guess the reason why my wife is very hesitant on cutting losses is because between our friend and us, we have spent $92,000 out of pocket on this deal and I guess it’s a tough pill to swallow

Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Jorge Esteban Vargas:

Hey everyone here's my story which almost sounds like it comes from a movie: we bought a house close to Atlanta airport through a wholesale company for $139,250 in August 2023 and we used a fix & flip loan to fix it up, refinance, and rent out. We have a friend/business partner who would give us $37,000 and we thought we would put about $10,000 and we'd split profits as 63% for our friend and 37% for us. We hired a contractor who had previously done few projects with other investors from the wholesale company and they gave good reviews. We paid this guy $12,000 in August and he was able to do some demolition but according to him, his crew got arrested and he had other projects at the same time and he took about 2 months to finally reply to us and tell us he would finish the demolition and install a new roof (which was the quote he gave us for those 2 things). He ended up not replying to our calls, texts, emails and basically never returned the money. We hired another contractor (a church friend of a realtor that we'd used in the past and we trust this realtor 100%) and paid him $15,000 to start the same project and everything went great; he completed demolition, installed the new roof, and got some permits (roof permit, electrical, and plumbing). Then we paid him an additional $17,500 to complete the next stage of the project (plumbing, floors, etc) but that's when everything went south. The city told us that the previous owner of the house owned a lot of land made up of 6 houses, he submitted a subdivision application with the city but they declined it and told him all the requirements he still had to meet. He ignored these requirements and he went straight to the County with the same paperwork and the county approved the subdivision; therefore he was able to sell 5 of the 6 properties to different investors. The city told us that all the owners of the 6 properties had to submit and sign a new subdivision application so that the city could issue permits and turn utilities on for the investors that were requesting it. We hired an attorney and paid another $5,000 for legal advice. Additionally, we asked the new contractor for the $17,500 back since he wasn't able to complete any of the project after the demolition and the roof and he declined to give it to us because he said he'd already spent the money. Needless to say everything became a nightmare because we had a vacant house that's always been uninhabitable and now we have to sue 2 contractors, pay attorney fees, and keep paying the monthly interest-only mortgage payment of approximately $1,300. As of last week, our partner has given us $44,000 and additionally we have paid about $49,300 into this project. The mortgage is about to expire in one month and 10 days, the house only has a new roof and the city gave us new requirements where we hired an architect to complete a survey and he should have that completed next week but then the city has to review the subdivision application and hopefully approve it so that we can start getting permits, fixing the house, and sell it. I've told my wife I'd rather cut the losses at this point since now we have to refinance again, pay about $10k-$12k of closing costs, find a new general contractor who can work with us in a timely manner, and still the run the risk that anything can further go wrong. My wife wants to finish the project and sell the house once it's fixed but I told her that could take at least 5-8 months from now and I rather cut the losses. Our friend/business partner has been very supportive and completely understands these issues and we're still great friends after all. What would you guys do in our case?


 Hindsight is 20/20 as the saying goes, but this another example of a hard money lender doing the borrower a "favor" my not requiring title insurance. When I hear borrowers tell me "well, my other lender does not require title insurance" I think of these situations. 

Our lender required us to have title insurance and this week my wife will be submitting a claim!
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Jorge Esteban Vargas

I would sell as Don’t take this personally but you are not experienced to continue to deal with this.

You never pay the contractor 100% upfront and you did this twice. When you buy through a wholesaler you should have gotten title insurance which should have picked up on subdivision issue. Many of these mistakes were avoidable with experience.

So based on this I would just get an agent and get it sold and hope you don’t lose more money.


Appreciate the feedback! And to be clear, the rehab budget was $100,000. We paid the contractors $12K - $15K as a deposit to start the job. We have written agreements with both and our attorney reviewed both and we know we have an extremely good case in both cases. We do have title insurance as well and when we spoke with the closing attorney, he told us that when they look into title, this type of issue is not found, instead they find liens that the property could’ve had previously. Another investor who owns the house next to us and is a very experienced investor told us this is his first time in 25 years that he sees this type of issue. He submitted a title claim and got $10K so we’ll definitely do that. This was our fourth deal and all of our deals have been extremely profitable and we still haven’t sold because we’re cash flowing. However, I agree it’s better to just cut the losses now and learn from this crazy experience.

Hey everyone here's my story which almost sounds like it comes from a movie: we bought a house close to Atlanta airport through a wholesale company for $139,250 in August 2023 and we used a fix & flip loan to fix it up, refinance, and rent out. We have a friend/business partner who would give us $37,000 and we thought we would put about $10,000 and we'd split profits as 63% for our friend and 37% for us. We hired a contractor who had previously done few projects with other investors from the wholesale company and they gave good reviews. We paid this guy $12,000 in August and he was able to do some demolition but according to him, his crew got arrested and he had other projects at the same time and he took about 2 months to finally reply to us and tell us he would finish the demolition and install a new roof (which was the quote he gave us for those 2 things). He ended up not replying to our calls, texts, emails and basically never returned the money. We hired another contractor (a church friend of a realtor that we'd used in the past and we trust this realtor 100%) and paid him $15,000 to start the same project and everything went great; he completed demolition, installed the new roof, and got some permits (roof permit, electrical, and plumbing). Then we paid him an additional $17,500 to complete the next stage of the project (plumbing, floors, etc) but that's when everything went south. The city told us that the previous owner of the house owned a lot of land made up of 6 houses, he submitted a subdivision application with the city but they declined it and told him all the requirements he still had to meet. He ignored these requirements and he went straight to the County with the same paperwork and the county approved the subdivision; therefore he was able to sell 5 of the 6 properties to different investors. The city told us that all the owners of the 6 properties had to submit and sign a new subdivision application so that the city could issue permits and turn utilities on for the investors that were requesting it. We hired an attorney and paid another $5,000 for legal advice. Additionally, we asked the new contractor for the $17,500 back since he wasn't able to complete any of the project after the demolition and the roof and he declined to give it to us because he said he'd already spent the money. Needless to say everything became a nightmare because we had a vacant house that's always been uninhabitable and now we have to sue 2 contractors, pay attorney fees, and keep paying the monthly interest-only mortgage payment of approximately $1,300. As of last week, our partner has given us $44,000 and additionally we have paid about $49,300 into this project. The mortgage is about to expire in one month and 10 days, the house only has a new roof and the city gave us new requirements where we hired an architect to complete a survey and he should have that completed next week but then the city has to review the subdivision application and hopefully approve it so that we can start getting permits, fixing the house, and sell it. I've told my wife I'd rather cut the losses at this point since now we have to refinance again, pay about $10k-$12k of closing costs, find a new general contractor who can work with us in a timely manner, and still the run the risk that anything can further go wrong. My wife wants to finish the project and sell the house once it's fixed but I told her that could take at least 5-8 months from now and I rather cut the losses. Our friend/business partner has been very supportive and completely understands these issues and we're still great friends after all. What would you guys do in our case?

Post: Opening Business Checking for new LLC

Jorge Esteban VargasPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Jorge Esteban Vargas:

Hi everyone. I'm trying to buy, fix, and rent real estate and created an LLC with my partner who is putting up most of the capital but he will not handle operations at all. In fact, he won't do anything but provide capital and we have a business deal where he'll make about 70% of the profits and I keep 30%. My question to everyone is how do I open a business checking account without my partner being involved? I spoke with a banker today and they need him to apply in person to open an account because he's 70% owner. However, the reason why my partner is only putting the money is because he's constantly traveling 80% of his time and he lives in a different state than I do. We also have an operating agreement that states that I will be handling the daily operations and I'm basically in charge of the whole business. Does anybody know any banks that would be easy to open a business checking account without my partner's physical presence?


 no bank will let an account be opened without both partners there. its a federal requirement (AML/KYC - BSA act). So if he is ownership, then he needs to be on.

What you probably should have done is created your own LLC and have a joint venture agreement for each property/project. As right now he owns 70% of the company so he is calling all the shots.


 So I was able to open up a small business checking account with Capital One and my partner didn't have to sign anything at all! I've added him as an account manager in the account so that he can see the activity. I guess there are few banks out there that can help out.

Post: Opening Business Checking for new LLC

Jorge Esteban VargasPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

Hi everyone. I'm trying to buy, fix, and rent real estate and created an LLC with my partner who is putting up most of the capital but he will not handle operations at all. In fact, he won't do anything but provide capital and we have a business deal where he'll make about 70% of the profits and I keep 30%. My question to everyone is how do I open a business checking account without my partner being involved? I spoke with a banker today and they need him to apply in person to open an account because he's 70% owner. However, the reason why my partner is only putting the money is because he's constantly traveling 80% of his time and he lives in a different state than I do. We also have an operating agreement that states that I will be handling the daily operations and I'm basically in charge of the whole business. Does anybody know any banks that would be easy to open a business checking account without my partner's physical presence?

Post: Billing question for MTRs

Jorge Esteban VargasPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

Agree with the previous responses, get the deposit first and then you can block your calendar. I've done the same in my STR and the way I do it is as follows:

- Tenant signs lease & sends deposit with first month of rent (we're able to collect both rent and deposit at the same time because all of our MTR tenants came from AirBnb so they were already staying in the property and were amazing guests).

- Tenant must pay on the first of every month (remember that rent is prepaid meaning that if your tenant is starting on 12/1/23 then the tenant must pay on 12/1 the month of December, then on 1/1/24 they'll pay the whole month of January and so forth).

Post: Contractor Charging Extra Due to W-9?

Jorge Esteban VargasPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

@Russell Brazil Oh yeah I know for a fact that he doesn't want to report the income. However, I don't know if he can simply add a $500 fee?

Post: Contractor Charging Extra Due to W-9?

Jorge Esteban VargasPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 9

Hi everybody, 

I'm working on getting permits for a new investment property. My contractor recommended a guy who can get the plans for the house for $2,500. He got the plans completed in a timely manner and his work was vey professional and easy to work with. However, I just asked him for a W-9 form and he told me he didn't know this was a W9 project and that he would have to "add a $500 offset taxes and accounting overhead."

Is this legal at all? I asked him what the difference is between working with a regular homeowner or with an investor and prices should be the same no matter what.