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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Burnett

Jordan Burnett has started 6 posts and replied 78 times.

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Grant Vincent:

I believe in Alpharetta's potential as an appreciation play, too. My house in Alpharetta has doubled in just 5 years!

In addition to the regular long-term rental approach, you may also want to analyze it's potential as a short-term rental. People are absolutely crushing it on STRs using AirBnB/VRBO (in general). I have an acquaintance generating excellent returns in Alpharetta using AirBnB. He's targeting working professionals, traveling nurses, etc. on longer stays (ie - multiple weeks or months instead of nightly stays). You can still use property management to run your AirBnB program, but the fee is higher (25%-ish?).

That same gentleman is interested in growing his program. Another variation that could be an opportunity to increase your rent would be to lease your townhome to someone like him to do AirBnB arbitrage - basically, he leases it from you and you let him sublet the unit for STR stays. Just brainstorming.

Send me a PM if you're interested in getting a cash offer to purchase your townhome (no obligation to accept; these are solid buyers that can close) or if you want to connect with the AirBnb guy(s) I mentioned...or if you just want to discuss further.

Agreed, AirBnBs are a great strategy for Alpharetta. My current residence requires 12 month leases and thus can't be used for STR otherwise I would be on that bandwagon.

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Jordan Burnett Ok, got it. What would a good ROE be? 

The past weekend I attended a webinar by @Brandon Turner which covered the bigger pockets tool for how to run an analysis on a rental property to determine if it’s worth investing it.

If I use the rental calculator, the cash flow is negative and the COI is 0. He mentioned in the webinar that if it’s less that 8% it’s not a good investment.

Does that mean it’s not a good investment ?to hold it for rent ? 

In general, you can probably get somewhere between 6-8% ROE in other asset classes (syndicated multifamily being one of them). The only thing I would say with the rental calculator that BP uses is to make sure that all of the expenses and assumptions are accurate. Sometimes their estimates on expenses are higher than actuals. As you have lived in the house and are very familiar with it, you should know in detail what the expected annual expenses will be (as well as any large Capital Expenditures you may have soon like a roof, HVAC, or water heater replacement). 

If your expenses are accurate and it's still negative cashflow then you have a decision to make regarding the equity capture/appreciation. Negative cashflow rentals are usually "not good" but can be very profitable when you consider the appreciation and equity buildup. In high cost of living areas, many investors don't care about a rental cash-flowing because they know the bulk of their gains will be upon sale from appreciation. This just means that in general your actual returns will be paper returns until the sale is realized and if the market turns on you it can result in those paper "returns" vanishing. 

I would say, in general, Alpharetta is more of an appreciation market (HCOL area similar to Californa/Seattle/etc.) than it is a cashflow market (midwest, southwest/southeast GA or northeast GA, etc.). So, make sure your assumptions about price appreciation are accurate.

Currently it's forecasted that home price appreciation will cool a bit in 2022 to 5.3% which is still very good.

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Grant Vincent

Yes your right. Since real estate investing is something new to us there is some resistance there and we are trying to get some general advice on whether the ROI in this asset class is comparable or better than others.

Especially because the sellers market is at it's peak right now. House values might have a correction soon. Or they may stop appreciating in value and plateau very soon. Given that this is quite a possibility, is it still worth investing in Real Estate as compared to other asset classes like stocks for example?

Because Real estate has the added burden of maintenance and other costs, is not a liquid asset and might not guarantee the same rate of returns as other asset classes.

These are just my thoughts. Want to know what other experienced people in real estate investing like you think.

To get an estimate on that you would need to run a return on equity (ROE) calculation which is why I asked how much equity you have if you were to sell now.

That will allow you to see what the return on your investment property will be. You can then use other tools like www.portfoliovisualizer.com to compare what a return on equity in the stock market or other asset classes would be. 

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Jordan Burnett It's 2200. The cash flow would not be more than 300-350 per month if we hire a property management company.

And how much equity do you have currently if you were to sell?  

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Jordan Burnett Yes we have verified that we can rent without any restrictions. And yes we do not have to pay any capital gains as we have lived here for more than 2 years.

What is your current monthly payment for the townhouse (all-in including PITI and HOA)?

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Jordan Burnett Yes we have verified that we can rent without any restrictions. And yes we do not have to pay any capital gains as we have lived here for more than 2 years.

Well, if you don't want to sell to me ;), I'd recommend renting it out for as long as allowable up to avoiding capital gains and then selling when you get to that point. 

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Sindhura G.:

@Sam T. It might sell for 450K based on comps

The rent might be around 2800-2900 based on comps

How long has this home been your primary residence? And what was your original purchase price/basis? If you lived in it for at least two years, you can sell for +$250K (single) or +$500K (married) without paying any capital gains on the transaction. 

Additionally, you can still rent it out for 3 more years after living in it as a primary residence (2 years primary + 3 years as a rental).

Have you already verified that your HOA actually allows rentals? Are there any restrictions?

Post: Sell or Rent in Alpharetta ( Georgia ) ?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74

You should definitely sell now. Particularly to me, as I live in Alpharetta. :)

Post: K-1 paper loss while applying personal mortgage?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74

I went through this recently but did not require my distributions to qualify as income from a DTI perspective. From what my mortgage broker told me, the distributions need to be regular (similar to income), ideally consistent for 24+ months, and you have to explain that the investment is real-estate related and utilizing depreciation. However, as they were just the broker, I would verify with the actual mortgage originator/lender since they are the one that ultimately matters when it comes to verifying your DTI ratio.

Post: Grocapitus - Anyone have experience with them?

Jordan BurnettPosted
  • Investor
  • Alpharetta, GA
  • Posts 78
  • Votes 74

I have no personal experience, but I would suggest you join a private investment club (https://www.privateinvestorclu...) or 506Group. There are several folks who have posted about their experience with the primary operator and that particular group.