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All Forum Posts by: Jon Foley

Jon Foley has started 8 posts and replied 20 times.

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Navarre.

Purchase price: $259,000

STR - coming soon

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Navarre.

Purchase price: $259,000

STR - coming soon

Post: When to buy our second deal?

Jon FoleyPosted
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 10

Shu, did you end up buying more units? I'd love to hear how you financed your additional units. 

Post: Newbie in Pensacola FL

Jon FoleyPosted
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@Korey Rademacher@Daniel L.,@Jessica Edmond@Joe Bardinelli, if any of you are interested, I'd love to do a meet & greet sometime. I'm new to the Pensacola area (I live in GB/Navarre) and I'm new to investing. I'd love to hear your personal strategies for this area and market. 

@Jason Wray, I'm familiar with refinancing to pull equity and a LOC, but I'm not educated on title seasoning. Can you elaborate on the (6) month period for title seasoning?

Hi @Jason Wray, thanks for the input, that's very helpful. I had a feeling my timing would cause some red flags. Amazingly, have the capital for more than 25% down, but I was really hoping to buy more than one property rather than blowing half of my capital on a single deal. I have excellent credit and held the same middle-class job for 7 years. My goal was to have renters pay PMI and I wouldn't take much of a profit until PMI is gone. I'm guessing I'll have to reverse that mindset, blow my capital and rigorously save the profits to rebuild capital.

I’m sure this question has been asked numerous times, feel free to link me to this existing topic. 

I’m trying to buy my first duplex or multifamily. I’ve started to get pre-approved, but I’m not thrilled with the results. Since I don’t plan on house hacking, lenders are saying that investment multifamily properties are currently subject to 25% down (in Florida) and higher interest rates (~5%).

One lender vaguely hinted that if I “INTEND” on living in the duplex, everything changes for the better. I just moved last month and don’t want a bunch of red flags. Does anyone have advice for this situation? 

I’m guessing that I can INTEND on living in the duplex and change my mind after the purchase. Since I don’t make a ton of money, lenders will probably require that my current house have a lease before lending more money? 

Thanks everyone!



@Matt JonesI think you hit the nail on the head, the best strategy is the one that fits my time and goals. I am employed, but I also don't physically work in a building. I have much more flexibility than most people and a regular income. Within 10 years, I'd like to replace my day job with these property investments. 

You all are fantastic, thank you! This is exactly the type of info I am looking for. I'll do my best to address each person line by line, apologies in advance if I'm managing this thread incorrectly.

@Joshua McMillion - I won't completely rule out house hacking, but I like my personal space and I'm willing to spend a little bit of money to have that even though it is not the best financial decision. If I house hack, I'm leaning towards a short-term vacation rental on my personal residence. Who knows, maybe I'll find a great multifamily unit and suck it up for a few years. Great advice on having an LLC, taxes, and umbrella coverage.

@Travis Steinemann - I will 100% buy J Scott's book on estimating rehab costs. I'm fairly handy and plan on doing about 50%-90% of the labor myself, but estimating costs is not something I've dealt with, that's solid advice. Do you have any tips for finding lenders? I have a lender I've worked with three times and like him, but his fees are a bit high.

@AJ H. - based on what you said and others, I'll probably try to buy 4-10 (whatever the max is) units in my personal name and/or my wife's name, get an umbrella policy, then start an LLC once when I've reached my max personal mortgages. I do plan on spending a solid weekend with my wife creating a written strategy. I believe the BP podcast with Cameron Herold (Vivid Visions) addressed this. After we move into our new house, goals and strategies are going to be my first priority. Currently, I do not need cash flow. My family lives comfortably enough on my fixed income. I won't allow us to change our lifestyle or budget until we have 10+ units. I'd like to buy & hold for appreciation, but receive small dividends so that I can work towards financial freedom. 

@Ian Walsh - absolutely, thank you. Do you have any tips for finding lenders? One podcast said to almost pit lenders against each other for the best deal.. thoughts?


@Sean Ross
- I wish I had found BiggerPockets before I had kids! Being on this forum before children is a wise investment in itself. One of my goals is to be able to gift each of my children a cheap duplex when they get married or graduate college. A friend of mine was gifted a single-family residence when he was younger, it really set him up for great financial success by the time they were in their 40s. Something I forgot to mention in my list, I've worked remotely for the last 7 years. With my job, some days are busy, other days are slow or intermittent. All I need is my computer & internet to earn my salary. My goal is to find the right BRRRR properties, refurbish a lot of things myself during my slow hours while my kids are at school. My wife can help me paint & install LVP, then I'll play general contractor and hire subs for specific projects I can't complete myself. I'll look into 1031 exchange, thanks!

@Dave Foster
- nope, not flight school or military, we're not even moving for a job, can you believe that? My wife and I have disliked how CA has been managed for many years, we're hoping to start a brighter future for our children. I can work remotely, so there's no reason to stay in CA where cost of living is so high. Moving to FL should free up some regular income too. I agree, buying a house and renting is never a bad option as long as it makes dollars & sense. I will try to connect with @Avery Carl once we get there. She sounds like a great resource. The first house we're buying in FL is going to be a rental, we could have bought much bigger/nicer, but I'm trying to reinvest my CA profits instead of wasting it on a big house. Hopefully, it will be a good landing pad and eventually a rental.

Hi BiggerPockets fam! 

I'm looking for some advice and input on where to start. I'm new to the forum & podcast, but I've been listening to as many episodes as possible. I've always had an interest in real estate, but the BP podcast made me realize that property investments are actually possible on my income. 

Background

  • Bought my first home with my wife in CA 5 years ago, it's currently being sold and is in escrow, it should profit over $100k on the sale. 
  • I'm moving near Pensacola, Florida, we're currently in escrow for a smaller/cheaper house for $265k with 5% down. 
  • Current savings around $25k.
  • Debt is a single mortgage ($265) and a single auto loan with $25k balance @ 3% apr. 
  • Spouse owes $15k in student loans. 
  • Income: $85k/yr
  • Credit score: 800+

Based on the podcast, it seems like the BRRRR method with duplexes (single story 2br with a garage per Dion Mcneeley) is probably the best option for me to get started, maybe mix in a small vacation rental. I'm going to be living near a tourist location (beach), two different military bases, a hospital, and two colleges. Both long-term or vacation rentals should do well.

Concerns

  • I have 4 young children, I'd rather not house hack. 
  • Taxes: I'm clueless on this topic and worry about capital gains. 
  • LLC: how do I protect my family?

Books: I just bought Flip: An Unconventional Guide and Investing In Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down, but haven't read them yet (because of moving). Any other books or materials I should read?

Summary: I'm trying to decide what I should do with approximately $150k capital.