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All Forum Posts by: Jonathon Weber

Jonathon Weber has started 4 posts and replied 109 times.

Originally posted by @Brent Paul:

As the title says I am wondering how to compete with all the cash buyers in my area.  One of which owns over 90% of the apartment buildings as well as almost all commercial buildings in town.  He also frequents the city auctions and pays cash outbidding anyone that even tries.  Im guessing he gets off market deals too. I tried to start a conversation with the guy, but he is grade A jerk.  Hard to believe someone so arrogant can be so successful.

How do I compete with that?

 Cash is the most powerful think on this planet. There is no competing against it. I would advice to learn how he came what he is now and work to replicate it. Who cares if his personality is rough, cash is king for a reason - there is nothing that tops it. 

If I had $1M in the bank and went to Wells Fargo and told them I want to buy $1M in notes, you think they would turn me away? Heck no! 

Show me a multi millionare that was once broke that only worked a few hours a day a day and did it between 10am to 3:30 pm and I'll show you a liar. 

Originally posted by @Bryce Campos:

The process of seeking multi millionaire investors seems harder than you’d think on such a site or app “BiggerPockets” lol, but finding buyer for multi million dollars properties is definitely tiring but the fight must go on. Does anyone know where I may find these guys and gals in FL,CA, and NY?

You have to find the real estate agents that know who the rich buyers are. They tend to deal in privacy. 

For seeking investors worth multi millions, good luck on that. That is NEVER easy. They usually have a person or a company that manages things for them and they are the go to people to eventually present a deal to the intended target. 

The richer they are the harder they are to speak with. 

Post: can money be borrowed from retirement funds

Jonathon WeberPosted
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Solo 401K - you get to make the investment decisions instead of the brokerage. Enjoy!

This is how you can convert ordinary income from a business into passive income. For this it’s not how much you own that matters, it’s how much you control. This is the rule to use to convert at least part of your business income into passive income. All we have to do is to give part of your business to a member of your family who doesn’t work in the business. When we do this, their share of the income from the business is passive income. Then, we also give them a part of the real estate that has passive losses. Now, their share of the real estate losses will offset the passive income from their share of the business.

Originally posted by @Timothy W Hanson:

That's one hell of a goal. I appreciate your replies to my question it helped me understand more questions to ask my CPA when working on tax returns / deductions. I wish you a lot of luck moving forward with that endeavor! We are clearly in different stages in our investing journeys and I envy you in a lot of ways! Thanks again!  :) 

 I've spent my entire adult life building my professional career to the level it is now. It was a living %^&& to get to this point, but now that I am finally here it is actually easy now to continue to grow my income. I have no interest in letting the government take all of the tax it could take from stupidity on my own end so I am learning everything I can about wealth creation, risks, and movement that rich people can make to decrease their tax liability. 

The reason Trump doesn't realize tax returns is because he doesn't pay much in taxes. Rich people that are smart do what they can to avoid paying taxes since it's completely legal to do it. 

The reason I have little interest in buying homes is two fold - low returns and having to deal with a lot of crazyness (toilet issues, people not paying rent, etc). Instead I would rather take the skills that I have developed all of my adult life and take that into note investing and build a generational legacy of wealth for my family. I will easily be able to relate to people are have a non-performing note and I'm confident in my skills that I will get some people to get the note back to performing and save their lives. 

I'm not doing this to be one of the "I just want to replace my income so I can leave the rate race". F that! For how much work it took to get here I am NOT leaving that and have no interest in talking to people who want to do note investing or real estate to replace a job. 

I'm more than happy to talk about tax and financial moves to lower tax liabilities for a person that is maximizing their income potential. 

Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Jonathon Weber:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @John Corey:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @John Corey:

For any deal with Cardone Capital, read the SEC filing. All the info you need will be in the specific filing.

The lawyer who handle one or more of the SEC filings is a BP member.

 Here you go Mr. Corey. 

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1741665/000147793218003316/cardone_1a.htm#RISK%20FACTORS

I love these few snippets:

1)We are an emerging growth company organized in May 2018 and have not yet commenced operations, which makes an evaluation of us extremely difficult. At this stage of our business operations, even with our good faith efforts, we may never become profitable or generate any significant amount of revenues, thus potential investors have a possibility of losing their investment.

2)This offering is a blind pool offering, and therefore, Members will not have the opportunity to evaluate some of our investments before we make them, which makes investments more speculative.

3)Our Manager will have complete control over the Company and will therefore make all decisions over which Members will have no control.

4)An investment in the Interests is highly illiquid. You may never be able to sell or otherwise dispose of your Interests.

5)Rising expenses could reduce cash flow and funds available for future acquisitions.

6)Our properties may not be diversified.

7)The failure of our properties to generate positive cash flow or to sufficiently appreciate in value would most likely preclude our Members from realizing an attractive return on their Interest ownership.

Everyone else can read the offering if they wish. It basically a junk bond or junk commercial paper. Junk in terms of, as it reads, highly speculative (Wall St. terminology).  

A good filing will definitely be a CYA exercise. So the investors are really put off if they are concerned about risks. Those who do invest will know they have been warned. 

There are only two entities making money on this deal, GC and the attornies.  It's garbage.  I've invested in plenty of preferred stocks, private offerings, convertible notes and commercial paper; so I actually know what I am reading.  However, these are UNDERWRITTEN by major firms and have insurance.  Or, at the very least, back buy the full faith of the entity (GSE bonds) or corporation (ExxonMobil, Goldman Sachs, General Motors, etc.).  There is no CYA analysis needed.  I just pointed out a few items which are completely one sided; there are plenty more.  

The issue is, the people with wealth and experience would touch this with a 10 foot pole.  The only one's who would are the newbie's or people w/o much experience.  This is not GC showing you the ropes.  This is you giving GC your hard earned money with little chance of making a fair return. Yea, it's buyer beware, but how anyone can offer this to the public knowing it's complete garbage is unbelievable.  When enough people get taken to the cleaners, I see a class action law suit and an SEC investigation in the coming future.  Sorry to say, but most lawyers are not worth the paper this is written on.  What a racket.  

Yep. That is why he pitches Cardone Capital to lower income folks and not the super rich. Get them to believe they need to earn more (they do) but the avenue to making more is to use his tool - Cardone Capital. It's simply a legal sales pitch he does like his Cardone University. 

I know what the guy is doing and don't hat him for it, but there are plenty of people out there that don't realize that the $50M plane was a tax move paid by the company, not himself. Smart people like Ben Mallah will rent out a private plane for a thousand dollars for a real estate deal, not spending $50M as a tax move. 

I have my doubts Grant even uses 1031, but he might. 

I've ran the numbers on what giving him $400k would do for me. It's doubtful it would even make me $24K a year. I can make more than that by buying a single note and for $400k I could make a lot more than $24K in one year. 

Ben is a good guy. He has a Youtube channel following his life in Real Estate.  I believe it is called Koncrete.  As for Crapdone Capital, that 6% is not necessarily a min.  You may get at least 6%, but that is gross of his management fees or any other fees being charged.  In addition, it could also be just return of your capital.  Return of capital just means that he's returning a portion of your investment with zero gain, but you may also invoke a tax consequence.  You also can receive nothing.  Finally, you receive zero depreciation on the real estate asset; yet he does.  No deal as Howie Mandel says.  

6% straight on an insured bond, not bad at all though.  Good luck finding that these days...  You can get some tax-free munis @ 3% - 4% or high grade corps @ 3% - 5%.  Of course, there are some risks there too.  Nothing is 100% safe.  Though, I must say, the more I read and dive into the Crapzone Capital, the more I am just amazed of the facade.



I would rather finance the entire development costs of a low income home for $115K and split 50-50 with the developer for a sale price of $175k and bank that money and repeat it with several homes a year.

Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @John Corey:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @John Corey:

For any deal with Cardone Capital, read the SEC filing. All the info you need will be in the specific filing.

The lawyer who handle one or more of the SEC filings is a BP member.

 Here you go Mr. Corey. 

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1741665/000147793218003316/cardone_1a.htm#RISK%20FACTORS

I love these few snippets:

1)We are an emerging growth company organized in May 2018 and have not yet commenced operations, which makes an evaluation of us extremely difficult. At this stage of our business operations, even with our good faith efforts, we may never become profitable or generate any significant amount of revenues, thus potential investors have a possibility of losing their investment.

2)This offering is a blind pool offering, and therefore, Members will not have the opportunity to evaluate some of our investments before we make them, which makes investments more speculative.

3)Our Manager will have complete control over the Company and will therefore make all decisions over which Members will have no control.

4)An investment in the Interests is highly illiquid. You may never be able to sell or otherwise dispose of your Interests.

5)Rising expenses could reduce cash flow and funds available for future acquisitions.

6)Our properties may not be diversified.

7)The failure of our properties to generate positive cash flow or to sufficiently appreciate in value would most likely preclude our Members from realizing an attractive return on their Interest ownership.

Everyone else can read the offering if they wish. It basically a junk bond or junk commercial paper. Junk in terms of, as it reads, highly speculative (Wall St. terminology).  

A good filing will definitely be a CYA exercise. So the investors are really put off if they are concerned about risks. Those who do invest will know they have been warned. 

There are only two entities making money on this deal, GC and the attornies.  It's garbage.  I've invested in plenty of preferred stocks, private offerings, convertible notes and commercial paper; so I actually know what I am reading.  However, these are UNDERWRITTEN by major firms and have insurance.  Or, at the very least, back buy the full faith of the entity (GSE bonds) or corporation (ExxonMobil, Goldman Sachs, General Motors, etc.).  There is no CYA analysis needed.  I just pointed out a few items which are completely one sided; there are plenty more.  

The issue is, the people with wealth and experience would touch this with a 10 foot pole.  The only one's who would are the newbie's or people w/o much experience.  This is not GC showing you the ropes.  This is you giving GC your hard earned money with little chance of making a fair return. Yea, it's buyer beware, but how anyone can offer this to the public knowing it's complete garbage is unbelievable.  When enough people get taken to the cleaners, I see a class action law suit and an SEC investigation in the coming future.  Sorry to say, but most lawyers are not worth the paper this is written on.  What a racket.  

Yep. That is why he pitches Cardone Capital to lower income folks and not the super rich. Get them to believe they need to earn more (they do) but the avenue to making more is to use his tool - Cardone Capital. It's simply a legal sales pitch he does like his Cardone University. 

I know what the guy is doing and don't hat him for it, but there are plenty of people out there that don't realize that the $50M plane was a tax move paid by the company, not himself. Smart people like Ben Mallah will rent out a private plane for a thousand dollars for a real estate deal, not spending $50M as a tax move. 

I have my doubts Grant even uses 1031, but he might. 

I've ran the numbers on what giving him $400k would do for me. It's doubtful it would even make me $24K a year. I can make more than that by buying a single note and for $400k I could make a lot more than $24K in one year. 

Many states have laws about what an investor can and can't do when homeowners are behind on their payments and in the pre-foreclosure stage.

By the time a pre-foreclosure home is listed by the real estate agent the home would like be sold at market value. Banks must approve a short sale for a short sale to take place, and banks hire appraisers and other real estate agents to perform broker price opinions (BPOs), or estimated values of the home.

The goal would be to negotiate with the seller before the home becomes a short sale. 

To find a pre-foreclosure home, buyers can search popular websites that pick up feeds from an aggregator or they can pay for the feed. Some foreclosure websites publish pre-foreclosures as well. If you have a lot of time, you can contact each of the homeowners to find out if any of them are interested in selling.

You can contact your county court to see how you can search for notices of default. These homeowners are probably not delinquent, although they might not be able to sell without doing a short sale as they might have no equity. 

If you're buying a home in pre-foreclosure, keep in mind that you're buying it as-is. You'll need to cover inspections and repairs. It may take more time for the lender to approve of the sale.

Post: What are we all going to do?

Jonathon WeberPosted
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Relationships will always trump technology. House purchases online will continue to grow and hedge funds and people with a lot of cash will continue to increase their frequency in buying homes to capture equity, especially after a downward period of prices, but there will always be the relationship with folks that can get you deals.