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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Tremblay

Jonathan Tremblay has started 7 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Single Family vs BRRR vs Multifamily?

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7

@David Lowe I'm curious to know how well you do with the SFH that have a value of 60-70k in Marietta. I'm guessing these are 1-2 bedrooms in the ~600-800 sqft region? What are your rents like and have you found good tenants for these?

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Dmitriy Fomichenko:

@Jonathan Tremblay

Welcome to the BP family! You came to the right place to learn all about real estate investing! Here are some recommendations for you:

Find and connect with other BP members that are in your area: http://www.biggerpockets.com/meet
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Wishing you the best!

 Thank you Dmitriy. I have looked at all of those and they are great resources. I was wondering what people would recommend for Alert Keywords. I placed my city and zip code only for now. I wanted meaningful alerts, and not to get spammed with a bunch of different alerts. What works best for everyone?

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:

@Marvin McTaw , my long-term goal is to create 10k monthly cash flow, so rental SFHs & multi-family are totally gonna play a huge part in all that. Unfortunately right now, I don't have a ton of capital to leverage down payments. I maybe have around 10k. I'm trying to save up at a rate of about 1k per month, but yea. 

In the meantime, I will be using some other strategies to generate extra cash to build up my first downpayment faster. I'm super comfortable with flipping and rehabbing, so I'm actually looking at doing some of those deals on hard cash.

I also have an incredible experience with some of the leading marketing companies as a software developer, and web analytics. So I'm currently talking to a few folks that are doing DM to see if it might be possible to partner with them if I can help take their game online. I think in the end, that might be a super awesome and unique niche for me to generate a substantial amount of cash in the REI field.

Given what you've said, sounds like you would be a prime candidate for the BRRRR strategy. I highly suggest you listen to the podcast from this past week as the guest was in a pretty similar situation to you. The title "Starting with $10k and Buying 52 Units in 3 Years with Chris Heeren". Hope it helps!

 Yea, I listen to every podcast as they come out. I still gotta listen to the one for this week. But yea, I liked Chris, the main thing, is that I wanna stay away from borrowing from my family and friends which is how he got started in the brrrr strategy. I mean, I could get the money from my family, and actually, that's been my source most times in the past, but I kinda wanna see about doing this on my own. I'm currently applying to hard money lenders and trying to build a network of some private lenders. Once I start my first flip, while the flip is happening, I wanna hunt down some banks that will be willing to refinance. If I can't find a bank with a good interest rate before the rehab is done, I'll sell it, and repeat until I find the right bank.

I love the brrrr strategy. I just wonder if anyone has had success in finding banks. Luckly, with brrrr, if you dont find the bank, you have enough equity to sell and keep going. 

Has anyone in the Marietta, Atlanta or Cobb Georgia area had success finding lenders to finance a property at 70-80%?

 I totally understand the desire to not borrow from friends and family but if they are willing and able to do so, why not simply borrow from them? Just treat them like you would any other private lender with proper documentation and set of expectations (e.g. timelines, interest rates, fees, expected return on capital, disclosures, potential for loss, etc.)? 

If you can't get funding from those sources, you can shoot for some seller financing to at least fund the purchase price and then borrow from a HML (as long as it's below their thresholds) to fund the repairs. Just make sure to factor those costs into your numbers and also be sure to subordinate the debt so the HML will feel more protected.

If you're looking for HML you should also be sure to ask about gap financing to help bridge any additional costs you may incur that go above their typical lending limits. You will have to personally guarantee it but from my perspective, it's just another source of liquidity if you need it and don't want to go to external sources.

 Really good tips! I will look into the gap financing for sure. 

And yea, as far as the family and friends thing, it's more a matter of pride thing. I guess the way I see it, is family and friends is the kid stuff, and I want to put on my big boy pants and get the financing from someone who isn't just gonna give me the money because they believe in me. I feel like anyone can just get financing from family and friends. But I suppose when you think about it, if there's money to be made, why let pride get in the way of that, right?

There is the perspective though, that with family and friend financing, it's not really scalable to doing that on bigger and repetitive scales. I do want to grow my operation and scale it, so that's also another reason I wanna get the financing from other sources. I feel like if I rely on family and friends, it will be less motivating to get financing elsewhere. But I think I will keep looking for external financing, and if a great deal comes up and I don't have an external lender yet, I'll have to call my dad. hahaha

 If you're going to a lender, it helps to have a track record of accomplishments you can point to. If you finance your first deal with friends and family, it will be easier to convince lenders you are a worthwhile risk for them. Additionally, if you're just going to be flipping, why do you even want to have to deal with institutional lenders, hard money lenders included? You can likely get better rates and terms from friends and family, help them make money and build your portfolio of flips!

That being said, HML's will generally keep you out of a bad deal so there is that...

 You bring up very good points. I think I have made up my mind to use family funding like you suggested. I think you are right, and I will offset some of my issues with family funding by making sure they make really good money from the deal. I'm gonna also make sure to treat them in a professional manner just like a lender. Thanks for all the advice!

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:

@Marvin McTaw , my long-term goal is to create 10k monthly cash flow, so rental SFHs & multi-family are totally gonna play a huge part in all that. Unfortunately right now, I don't have a ton of capital to leverage down payments. I maybe have around 10k. I'm trying to save up at a rate of about 1k per month, but yea. 

In the meantime, I will be using some other strategies to generate extra cash to build up my first downpayment faster. I'm super comfortable with flipping and rehabbing, so I'm actually looking at doing some of those deals on hard cash.

I also have an incredible experience with some of the leading marketing companies as a software developer, and web analytics. So I'm currently talking to a few folks that are doing DM to see if it might be possible to partner with them if I can help take their game online. I think in the end, that might be a super awesome and unique niche for me to generate a substantial amount of cash in the REI field.

Given what you've said, sounds like you would be a prime candidate for the BRRRR strategy. I highly suggest you listen to the podcast from this past week as the guest was in a pretty similar situation to you. The title "Starting with $10k and Buying 52 Units in 3 Years with Chris Heeren". Hope it helps!

 Yea, I listen to every podcast as they come out. I still gotta listen to the one for this week. But yea, I liked Chris, the main thing, is that I wanna stay away from borrowing from my family and friends which is how he got started in the brrrr strategy. I mean, I could get the money from my family, and actually, that's been my source most times in the past, but I kinda wanna see about doing this on my own. I'm currently applying to hard money lenders and trying to build a network of some private lenders. Once I start my first flip, while the flip is happening, I wanna hunt down some banks that will be willing to refinance. If I can't find a bank with a good interest rate before the rehab is done, I'll sell it, and repeat until I find the right bank.

I love the brrrr strategy. I just wonder if anyone has had success in finding banks. Luckly, with brrrr, if you dont find the bank, you have enough equity to sell and keep going. 

Has anyone in the Marietta, Atlanta or Cobb Georgia area had success finding lenders to finance a property at 70-80%?

 I totally understand the desire to not borrow from friends and family but if they are willing and able to do so, why not simply borrow from them? Just treat them like you would any other private lender with proper documentation and set of expectations (e.g. timelines, interest rates, fees, expected return on capital, disclosures, potential for loss, etc.)? 

If you can't get funding from those sources, you can shoot for some seller financing to at least fund the purchase price and then borrow from a HML (as long as it's below their thresholds) to fund the repairs. Just make sure to factor those costs into your numbers and also be sure to subordinate the debt so the HML will feel more protected.

If you're looking for HML you should also be sure to ask about gap financing to help bridge any additional costs you may incur that go above their typical lending limits. You will have to personally guarantee it but from my perspective, it's just another source of liquidity if you need it and don't want to go to external sources.

 Really good tips! I will look into the gap financing for sure. 

And yea, as far as the family and friends thing, it's more a matter of pride thing. I guess the way I see it, is family and friends is the kid stuff, and I want to put on my big boy pants and get the financing from someone who isn't just gonna give me the money because they believe in me. I feel like anyone can just get financing from family and friends. But I suppose when you think about it, if there's money to be made, why let pride get in the way of that, right?

There is the perspective though, that with family and friend financing, it's not really scalable to doing that on bigger and repetitive scales. I do want to grow my operation and scale it, so that's also another reason I wanna get the financing from other sources. I feel like if I rely on family and friends, it will be less motivating to get financing elsewhere. But I think I will keep looking for external financing, and if a great deal comes up and I don't have an external lender yet, I'll have to call my dad. hahaha

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Julie Kern:

Yep, I did cash out refi's on 2 properties with Credit Union of GA at 75% LTV (with 6 month seasoning)

 Wow, AWESOME! There's my first bank I'm calling. I wonder if they would be interested without as much seasoning. Some of the lenders I know have stupid high interest rates. Faster I get out of them, the better! :D

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Julie Kern:

Hey, @Jonathan Tremblay, glad you were able to go  - it's a great meet up!  I was planning to be there but was feeling a bit under the weather late yesterday afternoon so I ended up not going.

Glad it worked out for you, and hope to meet you at the next one in January!

 o gotcha. Yea, actually, that reminds me to add that to my calendar and RSVP! :D Thanks

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Marvin McTaw:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Tremblay:

@Marvin McTaw , my long-term goal is to create 10k monthly cash flow, so rental SFHs & multi-family are totally gonna play a huge part in all that. Unfortunately right now, I don't have a ton of capital to leverage down payments. I maybe have around 10k. I'm trying to save up at a rate of about 1k per month, but yea. 

In the meantime, I will be using some other strategies to generate extra cash to build up my first downpayment faster. I'm super comfortable with flipping and rehabbing, so I'm actually looking at doing some of those deals on hard cash.

I also have an incredible experience with some of the leading marketing companies as a software developer, and web analytics. So I'm currently talking to a few folks that are doing DM to see if it might be possible to partner with them if I can help take their game online. I think in the end, that might be a super awesome and unique niche for me to generate a substantial amount of cash in the REI field.

Given what you've said, sounds like you would be a prime candidate for the BRRRR strategy. I highly suggest you listen to the podcast from this past week as the guest was in a pretty similar situation to you. The title "Starting with $10k and Buying 52 Units in 3 Years with Chris Heeren". Hope it helps!

 Yea, I listen to every podcast as they come out. I still gotta listen to the one for this week. But yea, I liked Chris, the main thing, is that I wanna stay away from borrowing from my family and friends which is how he got started in the brrrr strategy. I mean, I could get the money from my family, and actually, that's been my source most times in the past, but I kinda wanna see about doing this on my own. I'm currently applying to hard money lenders and trying to build a network of some private lenders. Once I start my first flip, while the flip is happening, I wanna hunt down some banks that will be willing to refinance. If I can't find a bank with a good interest rate before the rehab is done, I'll sell it, and repeat until I find the right bank.

I love the brrrr strategy. I just wonder if anyone has had success in finding banks. Luckly, with brrrr, if you dont find the bank, you have enough equity to sell and keep going. 

Has anyone in the Marietta, Atlanta or Cobb Georgia area had success finding lenders to finance a property at 70-80%?

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7

@Julie Kern I actually ended up going to that meeting with my wife and I got some of the best ideas and advice I've heard so far from it! I didn't get a chance to meet everyone, and didn't meet anyone named Julie. Were you there?

Post: New Member from Cobb County Georgia

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7

@Marvin McTaw , my long-term goal is to create 10k monthly cash flow, so rental SFHs & multi-family are totally gonna play a huge part in all that. Unfortunately right now, I don't have a ton of capital to leverage down payments. I maybe have around 10k. I'm trying to save up at a rate of about 1k per month, but yea. 

In the meantime, I will be using some other strategies to generate extra cash to build up my first downpayment faster. I'm super comfortable with flipping and rehabbing, so I'm actually looking at doing some of those deals on hard cash.

I also have an incredible experience with some of the leading marketing companies as a software developer, and web analytics. So I'm currently talking to a few folks that are doing DM to see if it might be possible to partner with them if I can help take their game online. I think in the end, that might be a super awesome and unique niche for me to generate a substantial amount of cash in the REI field.

Post: New member from Atlanta!

Jonathan TremblayPosted
  • Marietta, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 7

@Jonathan Roveto , you have the best name ever! :P Welcome, I also live in the Marietta area and looking to invest. Fairly new myself, so it might be cool to keep in touch. Hit me up if you wanna chat more.