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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Abrado

Jonathan Abrado has started 6 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: If you use a CPA or Tax Professional, how did you find him or her?

Jonathan Abrado
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Hey! Looking for a investor friendly CPA/Tax Pro in CT/NY area. All recommendations welcomed!

Post: First Deal- Analysis Paralysis and Unsure If Good Deal

Jonathan Abrado
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Quote from @KC Pake:
Quote from @Jonathan Abrado:

Hi BP Community,

Newbie here! 


I currently have an off market deal under contract in Stamford, CT from a family friend. Originally was trying to do a seller finance deal and they were open to it, but things got a little complicated. 

Background:


Legal 3 Family home with long term tenants and has other streams of income attached to the property off the books, so it cash flows very nicely. Market value is over $800k and they have agreed to sell to me for $780k. The current owner lives in one unit, and rents out the two other units, WELL under market. The issue we are having is the property doesn't "legally" cash flow enough to qualify for DSCR, and, for seller finance, they have unrealistic terms. The owner wants to sell the house, but also be allowed to live there (possibly for free, maybe pay rent, not sure yet) until they close on their next property. They want a big down payment as well, basically enough to alleviate a financial issue, and enough for a downpayment on the next purchase. I've explained its very rare and almost impossible to name your price AND your terms.

So, because I don't qualify for DSCR at the moment, I can possibly get a bridge loan to acquire the property, charge them rent until she finds a place, bring the other units up to market rents, and then refi out within 8-12 months. I was also thinking for selling financing by paying off their financial issue as part of the down payment now, throw a little extra on top as cushion, call it $100k, and then monthly payments towards the purchase price, that will also go towards her downpayment, and then another lump sum 5-6 months later to go towards the rest of her down payment, since the likelihood of her finding a place and closing in 30-60 days is low.

Does anyone else have any other creative ideas on how to either present seller financing to them and not have to find a lender, or a solution outside of conventional and DSCR to acquire the property?

Thank you!

-Jon

Hello Jon,

Welcome to the BP Community! It sounds like you've got an interesting situation with your off-market deal in Stamford. It's great that you have the deal under contract, especially one that appears to have solid income potential. However, the complications you're facing are not uncommon in real estate transactions, particularly when dealing with seller financing and properties that don't meet traditional lending criteria "DSCR."

Here are a few thoughts and potential solutions:

Seller Financing Structure: Since the seller wants a significant down payment and the right to live in one of the units, you might want to propose a leaseback agreement as part of the seller financing. This would allow them to continue living in the unit for a specified period while paying rent to you. This rent could be structured as part of their installment payments for the sale of the property.  Not sure I would allow them to live at the property for free, as it would be a disincentive for a near-term move.

Bridge Loan Option: As you mentioned, a bridge loan could be a viable option to acquire the property quickly. You can use the loan to cover the purchase price and then work on adjusting the rent to market rates to increase cash flow. Once the property's financials are more stable, you could refinance with a more traditional mortgage product.

Partnership or Joint Venture: If financing is a challenge, consider bringing in a partner or forming a joint venture. This partner could provide the necessary capital for the down payment and share in the ownership and profits. It's a way to spread the risk and also meet the seller's financial needs.

Creative Financing Methods: Other creative financing methods, such as a wrap-around mortgage, might be worth exploring. This involves you taking on the existing mortgage and creating a new larger one that wraps around the existing debt.

Negotiation on Seller's Terms: It's important to negotiate the terms with the seller. While it's rare to get both the price and terms you want, there might be room for compromise. Maybe the seller would be willing to pay a reduced rent or agree to a shorter leaseback period.

Best of luck with your investment!

Thanks KC! Very informative as well as affirming, as these were some of the thoughts I was having. Appreciate your input and well wishes.

Best,

Jon

Thanks @KC Pake! Very informative as well as affirming, as these were some of the thoughts I was having. Appreciate your input and well wishes.

Best,

Jon

Post: First Deal- Analysis Paralysis and Unsure If Good Deal

Jonathan Abrado
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Hi BP Community,

Newbie here! 


I currently have an off market deal under contract in Stamford, CT from a family friend. Originally was trying to do a seller finance deal and they were open to it, but things got a little complicated. 

Background:


Legal 3 Family home with long term tenants and has other streams of income attached to the property off the books, so it cash flows very nicely. Market value is over $800k and they have agreed to sell to me for $780k. The current owner lives in one unit, and rents out the two other units, WELL under market. The issue we are having is the property doesn't "legally" cash flow enough to qualify for DSCR, and, for seller finance, they have unrealistic terms. The owner wants to sell the house, but also be allowed to live there (possibly for free, maybe pay rent, not sure yet) until they close on their next property. They want a big down payment as well, basically enough to alleviate a financial issue, and enough for a downpayment on the next purchase. I've explained its very rare and almost impossible to name your price AND your terms.

So, because I don't qualify for DSCR at the moment, I can possibly get a bridge loan to acquire the property, charge them rent until she finds a place, bring the other units up to market rents, and then refi out within 8-12 months. I was also thinking for selling financing by paying off their financial issue as part of the down payment now, throw a little extra on top as cushion, call it $100k, and then monthly payments towards the purchase price, that will also go towards her downpayment, and then another lump sum 5-6 months later to go towards the rest of her down payment, since the likelihood of her finding a place and closing in 30-60 days is low.

Does anyone else have any other creative ideas on how to either present seller financing to them and not have to find a lender, or a solution outside of conventional and DSCR to acquire the property?

Thank you!

-Jon

Post: Stamford, CT- Fairfield County Based Real Estate Savy CPA

Jonathan Abrado
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Good morning BP Community,

Looking for a CPA based out of Stamford/ Fairfield County who specializes in real estate taxes and short term rental taxes. 

Thank you for your help!

Post: Pace Morby Gator Method Course Review

Jonathan Abrado
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Quote from @Leon Nissley:


 nothing yet! Also, i'm not enrolled in the course or practicing the method (yet). 

Post: Pace Morby Gator Method Course Review

Jonathan Abrado
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Quote from @Reid Ferguson:

@Jonathan Abrado

the course content is pretty thorough and there are lots of side videos that have started up to support info in the main videos. The community is great as well!

I find the toughest part to be finding your own deals. If you’re heavily involved in the wholesaling world, this may be easy. If not, it’s likely going to be difficult. Hope that helps! Reach out if you’d like to discuss further.


 Happy New Year Reid! Interesting so the gator method is a more complex form of whole saling basically, is that correct? Is this something that you personally implemented and found potential success in? Thanks!

-Jon

Post: Question regarding short term EMD lending or “gator lending”

Jonathan Abrado
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Hey Kristi,

Did you end up taking Pace's Gator course? If so, would you be willing to share your honest feedback?

Thank you!

Post: Pace Morby Gator Method Course Review

Jonathan Abrado
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Hi BP community,

I recently saw a Pace Morby ad for something he calls the gator method. I wanted to see if anyone here has joined his mentorship program or for this specific course, and receive some honest feedback. Google is weird sometimes. 

Appreciate y'all!

-Jon

Post: Short term rental market & Rental Arbitrage

Jonathan Abrado
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Hi all,

Has anyone had success owning a short term rental in Stamford, CT or the surround areas, and/or has anyone broke into the rental arbitrage market here? Trying to find policies for STR in Stamford and I see as of 2019 there were no rules set in place but its a topic of discussion. If anyone has any insights, information or is looking to partner up, please shoot me a message!

Thank you!

Post: Analysis Paralysis- Having trouble pulling the trigger!

Jonathan Abrado
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Hey BP community,

I would be lying if I said I have complete control over my analysis paralysis and i've been researching and analyzing deals for months now without any execution. My latest hurdle is does BRRRR-ing single family homes makes sense in my market, or is the real bang for my buck in multi-family homes. I am hoping to get responses from those in my market, I am located in Stamford,Connecticut. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!