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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 15 times.

I wasn't sure how to edit  this but things just went from bad to worse. tenant claimed she fell down the stairs and hurt herself due to the hazardous conditions of replacing the floor. two weeks later she claimed to fall again.  she is scamming me, No lawsuit filed as yet. hopefully to see an attorney soon. anyone else experience this?

Originally posted by @Steve Babiak:

From the sound of things, you have a professional tenant. Faked documents and all, and knows how to play the came called a con or scam.

So, as posted by another earlier post, review your lease to see if it contains anything to the effect that falsified information on the application is grounds for termination of the lease. If you don't have something like that, be sure to include that in the future. And if you don't have something about falsified application information, then look through the lease with a fine toothed comb to identify lease violations so that you can find grounds to evict.

The longer you have this tenant, the more likely your property is going to be degraded from others in that neighborhood.

Lastly, I have posted this previy, but worth mentioning again. Rather than repeat myself, I'll post a link that will get you to the more verbose posts I wrote on this:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/215105-use-realtor-to-find-tenants?page=1#p1436569

Thank you for your input!   I got so nervous i just hired a PM yesterday and he will be handling  everything for me.  I think he's going to take care of business so I must say I am really relieved.   Also, the minute she doesn't pay I am hoping to evict, although that hasn't happened yet.   Due to your comment I will do a bimonthly drive by.  Thank you once again.

Originally posted by @Maurice Grant:

Throw the damn application in the garbage and fire the realtor. You will probably have to learn to rent your own properties. It may be possible to find a good property manager but they are mighty scarce.

 Thank you Maurice. Too late, she's already in. I did hire a PM though and I am feeling better about it now.  People give a lot away about themselves when their speaking and when she did it appeared her income and lifestyle just didn't jive in a lot of ways and it sent a big ??? in my mind. I brought this up to my realtor but my realtor thought I was being judgmental and let me know she had good references and great income - whoops! Lesson learned -TRUST YOUR GUT!  Again that you for your reply.

Originally posted by @Colleen F.:
That PM either knows this tenant personally or is incompetent. A credit report should have turned up the prevous addresses and thus allow you to verify false references and income / employment should have been verified. I suspect if you cant get out of the lease you need to do frequent inspections. I dont care if someone makes less but lying is an indication of possible more lying. Where is the income from? My thought is to look out for any illegal activity at your property. As far as indicators you mention on uber use,car ownership, and money orders these are all flags that should have lead to better due diligence on verifying her income. People can be frugal but often are not.

Thank you Colleen.  it was my realtor that found the tenant a month ago and I just hired a PM yesterday to deal with any problems from her that may come up. also the credit report was given to the realtor from the tenant. the realtor didn't see anything wrong with that. Today I know that that is a red flag;(.  I will definitely do more inspections, THANK YOU FOR THAT ADVICE!! as far as the lying, yep she claimed to have one small service dog on the lease but when I went over there there were two hyper dogs, one a lab, the other a lab mix, no way service dogs and no way small. then I started to dig deeper and found out the references were on her FB page - boy did I feel dumb, but then again I expect that my realtor knows these things since that is what I pay her for. Now I know to hire a PM since obviously someone pulled the wool over my and my realtor's eyes. I so appreciate your comment, again thank you!!

Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

@Account Closed

My opinion may be different than others on here, but I don't think you have a problem yet. It is troubling that she used fraudulent references and such, however she is already in your house, so you will have to go through the same process to remove her regardless.

Is she still paying the rent? If so I would continue to run business as normal. It doesn't matter if she pays with money orders as long as the money is there. She has two dogs, and you knew there would be wear and tear, and you can deduct that from their security deposit. 

Until then collect every single penny that you can from her. If she is able to pay for the entire two years, you win. 

Now finally, I really don't like the judgemental stuff in your post with concern to the way your tenant dresses, the car she drives and the haircut her kids have. That is 100% irrelevant. I'm a very frugal person myself even with an income that is considered upper middle class. 

Thank you Anthony, I am going to do  exactly what you state!  What I was saying about her was that it was odd, lots of other things I couldn't put in the body of the text  that sent off a huge red flag.   Again, thank you. 

Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

@Account Closed

My opinion may be different than others on here, but I don't think you have a problem yet. It is troubling that she used fraudulent references and such, however she is already in your house, so you will have to go through the same process to remove her regardless.

Is she still paying the rent? If so I would continue to run business as normal. It doesn't matter if she pays with money orders as long as the money is there. She has two dogs, and you knew there would be wear and tear, and you can deduct that from their security deposit. 

Until then collect every single penny that you can from her. If she is able to pay for the entire two years, you win. 

Now finally, I really don't like the judgemental stuff in your post with concern to the way your tenant dresses, the car she drives and the haircut her kids have. That is 100% irrelevant. I'm a very frugal person myself even with an income that is considered upper middle class. 

Originally posted by @John Britt:

@Account Closed Does you lease have anything in it that states that the tenant is not allowed to have pets except for service animals or requires additional fees and permission from you?  If not, I would just be nice as you can to the tenant and make regular property inspections to make sure the tenant is not destroying the property.

 Thank you John,  I will take your advice and make sure the PM will visit twice yearly. I didn't think of that and I appreciate it!

Originally posted by @John Britt:

@Account Closed Does you lease have anything in it that states that the tenant is not allowed to have pets except for service animals or requires additional fees and permission from you?  If not, I would just be nice as you can to the tenant and make regular property inspections to make sure the tenant is not destroying the property.

Thank you Ned.  The realtor did call the references but I am sure the person listed was a friend. My girlfriend who owns a printing business let me know that paycheck stubs, etc. are easily forged.  I'll just hang on to her until she stops paying rent. Again, thank you so much for answering!

Originally posted by @Ned J.:

So..... your realtor got all this info and DIDNT VERIFY ANY OF IT before accepting the applicant to move in? And/or you didn't verify ANY of it, before they signed the lease and moved in?

You just took their word for it? HUGE MISTAKE........ ALWAYS verify info on an application.....newsflash....tenants lie.......

Best hope is that you can nullify the lease based on false info.....you may have a professional deadbeat on your hands....good luck....get a lawyer.....