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All Forum Posts by: John Schober

John Schober has started 2 posts and replied 4 times.

Some background: My goal for my first investment property is a combination BRRRR/house hack. I want to buy a large single family property (4-5 Beds,2-3 baths) and turn it into a duplex. My girlfriend and I will live in half and we'll rent out the other half. Within a year we'll have the next property, and our duplex will become an awesome cash flowing property that we intend to keep our whole lives.

I did the work, I searched and I hunted, I marked up a zoning map of areas that would allow for my plan, came up with a renovation budget for a house that is tore up from the floor up, figured out how to buy a house I can't afford, I scoured the neighborhood, spent WAAAAY too much time on Zillow, and it finally happened. I found the deal! It was perfect! 

It popped up on Zillow at 9:45pm as I was laying down to sleep. I had already ruled out Zillow as a way to find a deal, I don't know why I chose to open that night, and I honestly didn't believe it. I rubbed my eyes, grabbed my glasses, ran to my computer to punch some numbers into the BP calculators. It was too good of a deal. It had to be a typo.. but what if it wasn't? I called my foreman immediately (I am an electrical apprentice) left a message informing him I would not be working the next day, I called the listing agent, no answer! I called my agent, no answer! I was freaking out! I HAD to be the first one in. It was the only way I felt I had a chance. I sent my agent a text (over)explaining the situation. I drove by the property, low-key worried someone would think I was casing the joint, which I guess, in a way, I was? I then stayed up half the night looking at photos and planning like I already owned the place. I ended my evening at midnight with mock blueprints drawn up and ready to go. 

The next morning I woke up 3am with a strange energy in me. I ran the numbers again. It was too good of a deal. My agent called me around 6am. We were going to the be first people in! I arrived. It was outdated, ugly and smelly. It was everything I ever imagined and I fell in love. I could already see our future together. Me, covered in saw dust and sweat as I crafted the best duplex anyone could imagine. Breathing new life into the property as it endowed new energy and knowledge into me. I put in an offer above the asking price before anyone else had seen it. Then I waited for three days, or in other words, an eternity.. on the third day I received word that we had lost out to a cash offer, well above the asking price.. my gut filled with rocks, sinking me lower into my desk chair. Heart broken I placed my BRRRR report in my computers trash can and stared blankly at my screen as Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On played faintly in the back of my head. 

Losing out on the first property I tried to invest in was a bummer. A serious bummer. But the rush I got from the experience helps me know I'm steering in the right direction. I know if I keep my nose to the grindstone I will find the property that may replace my "first property," the one that got away.. 

Anyways, I hope that was silly and dramatic as intended. I'm sure many of you have had a similar experience. I'm sure I don't need to tell BP folks this but I need to reaffirm it for myself; there is enough success out there for all who seek it. 

I'm going to be more active on these forums. I read the forums a lot, I listen to BP podcasts every day, and I often feel I don't have much to contribute. BP has been a major contributor to me gaining the confidence and mindset to make many positive changes in my life, so if all I have to offer stories of lost love and corny jokes involving Celine Dion, then that's what I'll post. 

Let me know if you have any stories about getting too excited for a deal. I look forward to acquainting myself with many of you!

Congrats Brian! It's awesome reading how excited you are about beginning this new chapter of your life. I'm currently working towards similar goals, but I'm just getting started. It's hard to stay motivated some days but posts like this keep me excited and ready to put the extra time and work in. I'd be interested in hearing more about starting a construction company, while learning real estate, WHILE working what sounds like a more than full time job! 

Post: Getting started in Longmont, CO

John SchoberPosted
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@Ryan Fitzsimons I ran by that one the other day! I've been watching real estate apps for the past few months, and @Mindy Jensen's is right. Its crazy how fast they come and go! I'm sure most of the properties we're looking to buy never even make it onto those apps. 

Post: Getting started in Longmont, CO

John SchoberPosted
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I'm Johnny and I'm new at this. 

I've been listening to BP for a few months. 100 episodes later I've decided I'm going to be a real estate investor. I've come up with a plan that I believe will allow me to complete my apprenticeship (I am an electrical apprentice doing primarily industrial work) and build an investment portfolio. My vision for the next two years is earn my Journeyman's License, and acquire knowledge through flipping some houses on the side of my W-2 job. Once I have that license I will switch to working for myself, or possibly a team of people that I have helped build.. maybe join one that is already out there? Who knows. 

I enjoy working with my hands and doing so is part of my vision for the future. I'll never have to hire an electrician, and my future rentals will have some pretty wood working features in them. That being said, I'm not unwilling to bury my nose in a book, make a bad *** spread sheet, or put in the time to be the best I can be at any task. I'm currently consuming as much knowledge as I can. I listen to BP while I'm at work and my online shopping cart is full of books on real estate. My current cart is BP's guest Tarl Yarbor's recommendations; The 4 Hour Work Week, The One Thing, and Checklist Manifesto. I loved his message about building a business around the life you want. I've heard that message and I intend to do so. 

I believe I have enough knowledge to start. I intend to put my feet the ground and check out the neighborhoods in my current city of residence; Longmont, CO. I'm going to find that first deal. I'm looking for overgrown lawns, shabby porches, patchy roofs-any sign of deterioration. Once I find what I'm looking for I'm going the old fashioned way and knocking on doors, and leaving flyers if no one wants to talk to me. Once I close the deal I intend to flip the property or apply the BRRRR method. I will do most of the work myself, with the help of tradesmen I have met through my job. Then I find the second deal..

Today is day one. I'm making a flyer tomorrow morning. I want to print 100, and have them gone by the end of the week. 

To be 100% honest I didn't even know this was my plan until I typed it up, but the advice that is most often given from BP guests is to get started. Typing this felt good, and I'm excited to start. I have a vision of my future, and I'm about to put in a lot of hard work to make it a reality.

If you have any advice, or are in my area I'd love to talk. If you are an established house flipper nearby let's find a way to help each other out.