@Jerryll Noorden Hey Jerryll, I am a believer in your results - but I will say that I put in pretty significant work to rank my site and didn't get any leads whatsoever. I believe at one point I sat at #3 for "Sell my house in Westchester NY". Pretty likely search keywords, no? Sure I didn't rank #1, but 0 leads? You now hold #1 for that keyword, did you ever receive significant leads in that area- because I never heard from you.
I see where you're coming from, motivated sellers are coming to YOU day in day out. You know they're motivated, because they came TO YOU - there's no arguing that. Maybe it is because you are the best of the best at what you do, and other people just can't see putting in the time to become SEO experts themselves to get there.
I want to explore the back to basic methods that people DO say they get results with. Sure, you are playing a numbers game, but people do get leads. I want to send out marketing because my website was getting me no where. Should I have done pay per click? You said yourself you never used it for your lead gen site. From what I understand, in my market the marketing costs for Google are astronomical and still not guaranteed MOTIVATED LEADS any more than sending out/calling PEOPLE.