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All Forum Posts by: John Key

John Key has started 1 posts and replied 38 times.

Quote from @Tony Pellettieri:

Hi Rohan, I'm a new investor in the Charlotte area. If you're looking for a good area to invest in for value appreciate, look no further. Charlotte is experiencing a tremendous amount of growth, including all of the surrounding cities. I would look at cities that are currently undervalued and are being developed such as Rock Hill, Chester, Lancaster, Gastonia, just to name a few. Property values are soaring in these areas currently. I also hear Raleigh is booming. When getting started, staying close to home, especially when you live in an area that experiencing high growth, is not always a bad idea.


 I have observed that on my recent research I did in Charlotte, I also have a few friends over there and they tell me the same!

He claims to be a lawyer who specializes in real estate and business, his content is good and I am looking for someone to help me set up a structure for my property management business and the couple investments I own so i can save up on taxes. I see he sells resources and different programs, so I just want to know if he is legit, because he is also calling himself "the financial freedom coach" which sounds a bit weird to me

Quote from @Ray Hage:

I had already thought dropping 5 figures into these "mastermind" programs was a bad idea and now, I think it is even worse based on what I read in this thread. Sorry to see that some of you major funds that could have been used for investment purposes. I had spent $3k on a mentor a couple years back and it was also a waste of money.


 there are some good resources and mentors out there, but some people just use social media to promote their "expertise" when in reality they just provide a bad experience, just like pace morby

Quote from @Shawn Parsh:

Adrian,

  You are off to a good start by asking those who have gone before you. I would consume as much information about real estate investing as I could through books, podcast, and others like here on BP. There are many ways to invest in real estate so you will have to find what you enjoy. 

One route may be for you to find a lease option property that needs cosmetic repairs. In your situation maybe you could find one close to WashU that you could live in and rent the extra rooms out to other college students. Work on the property with your cash flow and money from your part time job to increase the value. Then when you have built some equity in the property and established enough credit buy it for the agreed upon price. 

I would also look into real estate investing clubs in your area and start attending their meetings. Most real estate investors are more than willing to help new investors. You can learn a lot about investing in real estate without paying for classes or professional mentor programs. Let me know if I can be of any help. 


 great advice, you have so much time ahead of you brother! use it correctly, itd good you have money saved up, build some credit and you can use the new fannie mae option with 5% down to househack a multifamily property!

Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Jonathan Cooper:
Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Jonathan Cooper:

it may be worth it, but keep in mind it is only for sub2, so it certainly will not be enough to give you the proper knowledge for real estate investing


 Truth. Most who sign up for a guru's program become captive to it. That's by design. Pace is no different than the leaders of Hamas or the Sinaloa Cartel in that manner. 


 well, there are gurus and wannabes that's for sure, but if everyone did some research they could figure that out and get the right people to guide them. Investing in yourself is a key. 

But on this specific guy, I jumped on a call to explore the program and it was a high pressure sales call, it did not feel organic, not trustworthy and certainly did not feel the right fit.

Why would someone spend 10k on a so niched-down space of real estate when they can get someone for the same amount to teach him/her everything? 


 He also lost his licenses in Arizona. He is the Madoff of Real Estate Investing right now. 


 its crazy how he has put accounts in here with only 1 post to talk positive about pace morby's mentorship, this guy is such a scam and I am not the only one exposing him...

Post: Pace Morby Subto Mentorship

John KeyPosted
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hmm, another positive review with 1 post and then disappeared...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/79/topics/1164203-subto...

dont fall for this scam, there is another thread saying the same stuff from an account with only 1 post. Check it out.

Post: Subto, Gator, and Pace

John KeyPosted
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Quote from @Jody Ogden:

After being in Gator for about a year I joined subto. Pace has built a very impactful community.  In my first few weeks I've helped deals happen and even connected some in the free community to who they needed to begin their real eestate journey. Ontop of all that I  have gained a lot of knowledge (boatloads more available to learn) and friends some I hope to do lots of deals with as we grow  friendships too. 

Thank You Pace and everyone in the community that has helped me as well. 

Jody Ogden 


 so you have 1 post in your entire account and thats to talk positive about pace morby's mentorship and then what? yeah okay buddy, this guy looks like a scam to me. Not only his marketing is sketchy as other people in here say but his program is just a group with people talking about random stuff, no value provided and that's my personal experience. 

Post: Ambitious 17 year old

John KeyPosted
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  • Votes 18

you got so much time ahead of you brother, try to take advantage of it! Learn more about wholesaling and take action, it can give you some great funding to get the ball rolling started with your househack and pay it off even faster!