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All Forum Posts by: John J.

John J. has started 4 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Let's discuss the BRRRR process

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Todd Murphy:
@Daniel Brown Understand what you are buying and what it can be with a solid plan. Be adaptive during rehab to ensure you stay with your planned objectives. Even if you plan to hold long-term, plan for multiple exit strategies. Lastly, be realistic when it comes to ARV. We bought two duplexes within a month of each other and both deals will still provide us with little to no cash in the deal after refi. We aren't there yet, but feel like I underestimated the ARV on both. Perfect is great, but I will take close enough to ARV to still be a great deal. Best of luck!

 @Todd Murphy, 

Just to understand what you're saying... You bought two duplexes, and after refinancing (minus all the implicit costs) you will hopefully break even. But you're not including the expected rental income once the Duplexes are inhabited, am I following?

Post: Let's discuss the BRRRR process

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Justin Murray:
@Daniel Brown I have only done one brrrr but there were a few things that confused me at first. One is probably really obvious but I'll throw it out there. Make sure that after you refinance, the rent you charge can cover your new mortgage payment, insurance, repairs and cap x. When I started looking at deals I thought I was going to be rich because I was only looking at the rent covering my original low mortgage and wasnt double checking costs after the refi. Oops. Secondly make sure you are accounting for holding costs. You dont have a renter paying the mortgage for you while you are making repairs. Again, me not thinking it through, I figured no big deal, I'm paying down the mortgage so I'll get that money back when i refi. But if you look at amortization schedules the money you are paying at the beginning of a mortgage is almost all interest, so you aren't really paying down your mortgage and dont get that back. Live and learn.

 Thank you SO MUCH! 

That is the kind of advice a real newb like me needs to see. Those pitfalls are exactly the kind of calculation mistakes I could see myself and probably many new REI folks making in the beginning. Thank you again, for mentioning them.

Post: Buying a House to Rent to you Parents

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6

@Mike Cumbie I don't think I'm comfortable gifting hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of real estate. The only way I think me and my family would be ok with going in with something like this, is that it be a business or investment opportunity. So the likely disappointment is a frightening idea to keep me from pursuing this.

I have no other income then the paycheck I get from working. So to over-leverage myself for a gift seems unacceptable at this point in my life.

Post: Buying a House to Rent to you Parents

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6

@Account Closed, I do have to do some real inventory on what I know I can handle, and what I think it's likely they can handle before I get too caught up in this type of decision. Why they can't get another rental, it may be hard to find a place that can fit the lot of them (See previous Post) and be affordable in the current Los Angeles market.

Post: Buying a House to Rent to you Parents

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Von S.:

With 7k a month, why don't they buy their own house?

I rent to my parents, but they are somewhat deadbeats and on top of that there's some filial piety cultural stuff I have to deal with-- essentially, I rent to them knowing I am subsidizing their lives.

You can balance it out by buying a multi-unit with decent returns. That way, if they are like my parents, you won't feel like you're not earning something on your cash with the returns from other renters.

 A little history, my mother or both parents (IDK) had to file bankruptcy because they bought a $250k home back in 1999 - 2000 and refinanced themselves upside down. My parents were not financially literate or very business savvy. Now they make around 7k a month through multiple income streams. One of which is being a payee for two individuals who they support. With that said, it is my mother, father, nephew and two Adult Men (their payees) sharing an apartment. I don't think I could do the deal unless there was something coming back to MY family for the risk we'd be taking, even if it's $600 net profit a year after maintenance.

Post: Buying a House to Rent to you Parents

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6

I haven't dove head first into throwing money at real estate. So far, I've only found it appropriate to learn, and look out for AFFORDABLE deals (that haven't manifest themselves yet). I make a middle class income and haven't settled in the BEST financial budgeting situation. But i have DECENT CREDIT (+750 Score). I have my own +$300k mortgage and a family I'm responsible for. Now, I've been propositioned to help my parents purchase a house because rent is raising hundreds of dollars a year at their current residence. First I panicked, then I thought this could be an opportunity. Not soon after, I began to think of all the doubts. THE RISK. If I found the right place, we could make their $7k/month income work, but what if the most unfortunate were to happen and they died. I'd be left with a mortgage I definitely could not afford.

As you can see, I haven't crunched the numbers yet, because the idea is still emotional. If anyone has any advice to clear this cloudy situation, I would be grateful. Thanks.

Post: Death of Direct Mail...Birth to Digital Marketing

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Tom Gimer:
Originally posted by @John J.:
Originally posted by @Tom Gimer:

Interesting idea.

But the perfect investor target isn't searching the internet... their utilities are cut off.

The mail still gets delivered every day.

 But @Tom Gimer, there cell phone is definitely still on.

Is electricity no longer required for those?

 That's funny. But starbucks will allow you to charge for free.

Post: Death of Direct Mail...Birth to Digital Marketing

John J.Posted
  • Norfolk, VA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Tom Gimer:

Interesting idea.

But the perfect investor target isn't searching the internet... their utilities are cut off.

The mail still gets delivered every day.

 But @Tom Gimer, there cell phone is definitely still on.

@Frank Chin that makes a lot of sense. Need to get the wheels spinning on how I'm going to show seasoned funds. That is, if I go the conventional mortgage route.

So, I've getting my feet wet in understanding where funds can come from for deals when you yourself have very little liquidity. I went to my local bank and they informed me that they do standard 75% of property Value REI loan, which means I just need to find 25% of w/e deal I'm going for. I will be sticking to the $100k and under in the Hampton Roads area. My question is whether or not it's unheard of to cover all or most of the down payment via credit card, or if that's even possible/legal?