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All Forum Posts by: John Joey

John Joey has started 4 posts and replied 10 times.

I have a question for the landlords/lawyers regarding implied lease/short term lease termination. I think I know the answer, but I'd like confirmation.

A tenant informed me of their vacation today 10/31, and stated that they'd written a termination letter. Reviewing my effects, I discovered their letter in an envelope from "Atos Medical." Although the letter is dated 10/1/19, it neither contained my address nor any sender information. So, it was among my trash.
I believe this notice is inconsistent with landlord/tenant law as cited in statute 704/21/2/C, because it wasn't registered, and inconspicuously packaged.

Am I within my rights to; decline this notice, request November's payment, and an 11/29 effective date? If so, how shall I proceed if they refuse to pay?

Thanks!

Post: Opinions on AirBnB in multi-unit

John JoeyPosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

Hey everyone! on 6/

I'd like everyone's opinion on using AirBnB as a means to increase cash flow, reinvesting the cash flow to force appreciation via upgrades to the property's infrastructure, and units. Details below -

I purchased my first 4 unit (2 bedroom 1 bathroom) multifamily house hack property in June, and I've just entered 1 unit. Since 2/4 of the units are on month-to-month agreements. I've considered having them vacate in order to AirBnb each room. Since I must give 28 days notice, I can have them out by September 29th. This will give me 2 months to upgrade the unit in which I reside (paint, new carpet or floors, new kitchen cabinet, and furnish), then enter the newly vacant unit, and host the upgraded unit. 

As I've resided in AirBnB's since November '17, my average monthly cost was $676 per room. Granted, you receive a 50% discount for booking 28 days or more which I did. My last host did her first month of airbnb using 2 rooms in her home, and grossed $1342 between both rooms. The 2nd room was occupied 68% of the time, but generated $827 between 7 guests.

Although I'd like more statistics regarding the Milwaukee airbnb market, I figure that 50% occupancy per month would generate the same amount of revenue as leasing both units would.

Please give your opinions. 

Post: First Mistake (Minor)

John JoeyPosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:
@John Joey. What’s he charging you per lawn cut? How big is the lawn? I can get a lawn moved for 30 bucks

 Caleb, $58 per visit on a weekly basis. I just cancelled, and opted for $37 bi-weekly elsewhere.

Post: First Mistake (Minor)

John JoeyPosted
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

Hey everyone! On 6/8, I purchased my first 4 unit house-hack, and I just wanted to share my first error for all the "noobs" to ensure we remain attentive moving forward. 

When purchasing the property, I was told that the seller owns a lawn care company. So, I requested their service package to see if I may solicit them to mow the lawn. When I read through the services offered, I noticed multiple types of cost depending on the service;

  1. Price Per Season
  2. Price Per Visit
  3. Price Per Visit and Materials

I chose the weekly lawn mowing service listed at $58.00/Per Season, and bi-weekly Bed Maintenance for $25/Per Season. On 7/11, a month after acquiring the property, I receive an invoice for $385.49! the "per season" apparently means the visit price may fluctuate per season or some rubbish. So I have to pay almost $400 for my first month of lawn care. Of course, I was puzzled when imagining that months of work would be performed for a single payment of $83, but I simply checked the boxes, signed, and went about my business. Now, I'm paying for my absentmindedness (literally).

The lesson here is as follows: NEVER agree to anything you don't understand. 

Originally posted by @Pete Woelfel:

I think that's a good point @Peter M..  Another thing to consider might be how good these tenants are, which you won't necessarily know until you move in.  If you have someone clean and quiet who pays their rent on time each month, it might be worth keeping them around at a lower rent while slowly raising the rates of the "worse" tenants.  Keep the good ones around until the other units are re-occupied by better tenants at a higher rent.

I haven't used any software that does this, but I would just be careful because all neighborhoods in a city/zip code aren't created equal and won't rent at the same rates.  What I like about zillow and (with a little manual work) craigslist is you can find places super close to you that are better comparisons than another place across town.

Also really like @Nick Mulligan's suggestion.  I've heard of people using that tactic before.

 Pete, you're correct regarding the price discrepancy between neighborhoods. In the beginning, I hadn't noted this. It was once I saw the Trulia crime maps that I began paying more attention to these details and saw the differences between neighborhoods, prices, crime, etc. This is basic stuff, but it's not something many consider when transitioning from the consumer perspective of real estate. 

Originally posted by @Peter M.:

Congrats on the purchase and good luck. Which unit will you be moving into? (You said house hack). I think you seem to have it handled pretty well. If rent-o-meter and zillow all say 800 then go with it. I would probably have the MTM sign a new lease and gradually raise it. If you jump these tenants up to 800 all at once you could have a mass exodus and/or deal with several evictions in the coming months. Talk to all of them individually and work out a plan. Congrats again, I know it is exciting and overwhelming at the same time. Just remember to take the good with the bad and you'll do great. 

Peter, a gradual increase seems to be the recurring suggestion I've received from those whom I've solicited. I'll definitely heed your advice! I'll be moving into the 1st Unit; that was the recommendation from the seller and broker. I'll also enroll in carpentry courses, and use my unit as testing grounds for making upgrades, e.g. Painting/Refinishing cabinetry, replacing carpet floors with wood/bamboo, painting, etc. 

Originally posted by @Katie Stewart:

There is free landlord software available that can provide you with an average rent amount in a city through a rental estimate report. It is based off the number of bedrooms and bathrooms and area you are in. That way you can ensure you are not over or under charging your tenants. 

Hope this helps a little!

 Katie, which software are you referring to? 

Originally posted by @Nick Mulligan:

John,

Congrats on the purchase. I am currently trying to do the same thing as you, house-hack a 2-4 unit (hopefully 4). I do not currently own any units, so take this as you will, but a good strategy may be to call around to local units that are renting and pose as a potential renter. Ask the agent/landlord what the rents are and you should be able to get a decent idea of what the landlords in your area are renting for. 

Your friend,

Nick

Nick, I never thought about that. I'll give that a try and add the numbers to my analysis. Thanks! 

Originally posted by @Pete Woelfel:

Hey John - congrats on your first purchase!

I've had personally had pretty good luck looking at zillow and craigslist rental prices in the zip code I've purchased in.  I've set my rates slightly higher, but the houses we invest in have generally been in better condition than many in the area.  Obviously, there are different neighborhoods within a zip code so look for the places as comparable as possible in both amenities and location.

I've also heard a few people mention rentometer but I haven't spent much time looking into that one yet.

Good Luck!

Pete

Thanks Pete! I've run analysis using Rent-o-meter, Zillow, and Trulia. I guess I'm somewhat nervous to raise prices given the drastic difference between what tenants currently pay, and what I've approximated as appropriate - $800. I'll just go with my gut nonetheless. 

Hey everyone! I've been following bigger pockets since September '17, and I'm closing on my first 4-plex house-hack on Friday. Looking at the rent rolls, I believe that the rents are somewhat under-priced for my area; I'm trying to determine the average rent price, and what I should increase the prices to if at all. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Property Characteristic:

  • Unit Types - 2 bed, 1 bath
  • Zip Code - 53210
  • Street Location - Lisbon & Hartung Ave
  • Appliances - Refrigerator, Oven/Stove/Cooktop
  • Tenant Utilities - Electricity, Heat, Gas, Air Conditioning
  • Landlord Utilities - Sewer, Hot Water, Trash

Current Rents:

  1. $525 - MTM
  2. $525 - MTM
  3. $675 - MTM
  4. $675 - 1 Year

Please note, I also intend to have tenants pay apportioned share of water/sewer/municipal cost. I understand the common practice of landlord paying, but I don't care for such liabilities. Given the information above, how would you price these rentals?