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All Forum Posts by: John Gentry

John Gentry has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

@Chris Mignone I don't want to be one of those people buying investment properties and losing money. Deals here in HSV look to be few and far between.  I suffer from Paralysis by Analysis so that will make it even harder to get the ball rolling.

Good point about Florence.  The appreciation in the Florence area looks a little stagnant.  Around the Campus is really hit or miss with the types of houses you can find.

@Michael 

@Michael S. It was in Monrovia.  Everything I see in this area looks the same to me. Priced too high to renovate and rent.  I've never done a deal and just don't see it in Huntsville right now.  I'm thinking The Florence area may be a better place to start out.  Houses seem cheaper and lots of college kids looking for a place to rent.

Quote from @Dylan Thomas:

@John Gentry

Hey John, it seems like you may be overthinking it a little bit. It looks like you might have the answer to your question inadvertently. 

Your original post said that they bought the house for cash. This means that they wouldn’t have a mortgage payment every month. Their only absolute expenses would be taxes and insurance. 

The 1% rule is a good way to evaluate rental properties quickly because most rentals that meet this rule will have at least some level of positive cash flow. However, this is usually used when people are putting an up and average down payment such as 20%, and they are financing the rest. 

Using your rental estimate of 1800 and let’s say 100 for taxes/insurance for easy math. They would cash flow 1700 per month. They would be wise to put away some of that for repairs and capital expenditures such as a new roof down the line. But overall, they are pocketing a lot of cash every month because they have virtually no expenses. 

Another factor to consider is the market. You said that 250k is the top when they bought it. That is probably a correct statement. But if their plan is to keep the property for 10, 15, maybe 20 years, then more than likely the value then will be higher than 250k and they will profit from appreciation when they sell as well. 

The real debate, one we can’t know the answer to, is whether this was an average, good, or great investment. It won’t be bad because they aren’t losing money. But we have no way of knowing their other options. 

Those are my thoughts anyway! Hopefully I read your post correctly and didn’t miss something. But these are my thoughts from my understanding anyway!



THANKS!  This is all I could think.  Maybe it was a buy and hold.  I was just thinking of how long it would take to recoup their cash outlay but really wasn't thinking of the equity they would build.
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@John Gentry

it's not possible to know much about it since you don't know many things: cash vs. loan, what type of loan, how well they're taking care of it, etc. 

maybe they are losing money, maybe they aren't

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


 I know, I don't have many details.  On the surface I just didn't see a way it could work.  The house was priced at the top of the market. I guess someone who knows what they are doing may be able to make this work.  Admittedly, I'm just now learning about real estate investing and am trying to figure out how the investor could make money off this purchase.

I've been thinking about investing lately. Looking hard at BRRRR. After doing some reading and watching podcast I got to thinking about a house my mom sold a couple years back. She sold at the top of the market for $250k. It was in a good neighborhood and really didn't need much work beyond a new coat of paint and maybe replacing the carpet. The buyer was an out of town investor and bought it sight unseen cash offer. I don't understand how they made money on this deal. The house sat empty for a few months until what I presume are renters moved in. No way the 1% rule works in this case. At best it would rent for $1800. The house hasn't been resold as its still listed in the LLC's name. What am I missing or did the buyer lose in this deal?