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All Forum Posts by: John Clarken

John Clarken has started 5 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: Finding a credible/reliable GC

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33

I'd start out by looking for contractors that have working knowledge in the remodel business as they will know the scopes required to complete the project. Make sure to define exactly what you want to do. The less vague the more accurate the pricing. Example - I want to redo the bathroom VS. I want new vanity, tub/shower combo, tile flooring, new mirror etc.

Ask for project list, cost, and scope on previous jobs. Ask if you could visit an active site and/or talk to a previous client. If they push back on this or do not have clients could be a red flag.

Lastly estimates can go up. Contracts lock in pricing. Make sure you review each line item as change orders can get expensive.

Post: Looking for a less volatile market for my first investment property

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Saeed J.:
Quote from @John Clarken:

Most markets have potential but it all depends on your strategy. Having relatives in the Houston area who potentially could help with small would be a positive asset. Also having the local market knowledge of areas that are up and coming, where to stay away from, and any other improvements is helpful. If you visit annually or even every couple years it gives you a reason to check in on the properties. Investing in a city or state you haven't visited and and do not have extensive knowledge on can add unforeseen variables that make a deal not pencil or too much of a headache. 

Which ever market you choose will depend on your strategy and how involved you are going to be. Having someone you know in the area that you can trust is a good head start.


 Thank you this is helpful. Yeah, having family in Houston is it's biggest advantage. I will still try to get more idea of different markets.

Do you know what is the best way to get "local market knowledge"? I understand this happens when you walk around a neighborhood but I've seen many people invest out-of-state and still do fine. I just want to get more comfortable taking that risk!


I'd start with everything you can find on the internet. Again, this depends on strategy. For example, I try to rent to families and try for longer durations with renters that will take care of the place and also might put down roots with kids in school etc.

Check crime stats, schools, population trends, big job suppliers, colleges, hospitals. This could give options to rent to students nurses etc. After initial research start calling real estate professionals and see where they invest. Again, align to your goals. Also call PM companies. Once this has all been done I would set up a trip to visit the area. This will allow you to see the properties which can vary wildly from the photos.

Last tip - dont force a buy. If you dont find something on the first trip wait. Its better with long distance to get the right property as the wrong one could be a huge time/money suck.

Post: Looking for a less volatile market for my first investment property

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33

Most markets have potential but it all depends on your strategy. Having relatives in the Houston area who potentially could help with small would be a positive asset. Also having the local market knowledge of areas that are up and coming, where to stay away from, and any other improvements is helpful. If you visit annually or even every couple years it gives you a reason to check in on the properties. Investing in a city or state you haven't visited and and do not have extensive knowledge on can add unforeseen variables that make a deal not pencil or too much of a headache. 

Which ever market you choose will depend on your strategy and how involved you are going to be. Having someone you know in the area that you can trust is a good head start.

Hi Matthew,

I have built close to 1,000 single family/townhomes ground up to certificate of occupancy. Critical items are budget, contracts, and schedule (included durations during contract). The rest is maintaining these items to completion and doing quality checks prior to inspections. If you need help in any of these areas please reach out. I'd be interested in how this project was financed so we can exchange information. Hope to help!

Post: ADU BUILD IN WA STATE

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Sidnee Wolfley:

My ADU is finished and we have been running it as an Airbnb for a little over 2 months now. I am very pleased with the amount of activity we are having. I really like the returns and would like to do this again with a couple other rentals I own in the future.

John Clarken, I would love to chat with you about your ADU and how you feel about it.

Hi Sidnee,

The ADU is set to wrap up this week with hopefully Certificate of Occupancy before Thanksgiving. We are going to be using it for the in-laws but it has great potential for rental income down the road. This was a trial run for us to figure out the process with the city, budget, schedule, contractors, etc.

I would love to chat more and find out how the process went for you. Specifically any challenges you faced, build time, if you used a construction/DCR loan, and if it appraised out in the end!

I think these ADUs have great potential for adds to existing properties as a lower cost way (instead of buying more single family) to increase value. Especially if you flip the main property and add and ADU or two for max returns. This adds another strategy potentially turning single family homes into multis.

Post: ADU BUILD IN WA STATE

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Gabriel Graumann:

@John Clarken ADU's and DADU's will continue to grow in necessity and popularity in the more densely populated areas. This is especially true where the cost to purchase a house is high and the need for affordable housing is abundant. Look to what cities, counties and states are doing in terms of lot requirements and approvals for these, and that will give you an indication of where the best places for them are long-term. For instance, Seattle has been allowing these for years, but this past year the state passed legislation that requires all cities in WA to allow for the addition of ADU's and DADU's to be build on lots of a certain size. In addition, part of the legislation allows for the separating of the lot for the ADU like a condominium lot.

And it's not just large tracts of land, the value is in all of the 5,000-8,000 sf lots that make up the bulk of city lots throughout the state. If the main house is positioned on the lot well, and you can meet the new smaller setbacks, you could add multiple ADU lots on a traditional single-family city lot, then separate them for either raaw land sale, or build the ADU or DADU and sell off that unit as a standalone. I have a local realtor that specializes in helping clients do this primarily in King and Snohomish Counties, and a builder who has been doing this at scale for several years. Hope this helps show where some of the major metros are going with it as well as WA state as a whole.


Yeah I see this strategy working. I'm currently finishing and ADU in a popular area in Vancouver WA and am excited for the potential. There are a couple builders in Portland who are adding 4 units on a single family lot getting the most value out of the land. No garages and only street parking available. I see a potential for flippers to fix the existing/add to main house and then build and ADU in addition to secure the right ROI.

Post: Strategy for Analyzing an ADU

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Christian Cambridge:
Quote from @John Clarken:
Quote from @Christian Cambridge:

Greetings all,

I'm considering a home renovation loan to convert my garage into an Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU). The loan will change my current interest rate, so I want to make sure that the return is worth doing the renovation loan. Is there a Bigger Pockets or other tool (i.e. Rental Property Calculator, Mortgage Calculator, etc.) available for running the numbers for an ADU done through a Home Renovation Loan?

Hi Christian, I've heard of a few appraisers not increasing the value of the property equal to the cost of the ADU - being less which could be a problem if you are trying to value add and pull cash out. The ADU is great idea for cash flow and you can find comparable by looking what is on the market. What is your strategy for this ADU? I think ultimately when you want to sell the property the right buyer will pay extra for the ADU either for in laws, rental purposes, or some type of guest house. 

Hi John, I'm planning to move my mom/grandma into the primary and move into the ADU once completed as I don't need much space. Not sure how much this will increase my mortgage which is why I'll need to run numbers ahead of time. I don't see myself selling the home anytime soon, but want to make sure I have enough to put down on another home once I start at family.


 I think that is a great idea. I'm doing the same for the in-laws! Good Luck!

Post: Newbie Vancouver,WA multifamily options

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Austin Youmans:

REVIN meetings Tuesdays at noon 

and monthly REIA meeting in vancouver last Monday of the month.


 I know this post is old. Do people still go to these meet ups?

Post: Large Multifam Dev in Hot Vancouver BC Suburb

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Steven Silman:

@Tay Huang - for an investment of this size, you definitely want to seek professional advice. Unless you've done this before and can perform it yourself, professional, experienced project management is a must. If it's presented as shovel-ready, you still need to run through every aspect to make sure there isn't some significant element you're overlooking. Even experienced developers will sometimes turn to consultants to ensure they're not missing something, unless they perform risk analyses in-house. There are so many moving parts to a project of this size that it's impossible to evaluate in a forum like this. You may be on to something with this but careful, professional evaluation is absolutely essential before taking on what would be a significant amount of risk.


Shovel ready should always be in quotation marks lol. Construction can be a huge financial risk due to material, subcontractor, and plan/scope delays. There is no guarantee so having competent management is a must and even then you are likely to go over budget and past schedule especially on a project of this size.

Post: ADU - Panelized - Manufactured - Stick built

John ClarkenPosted
  • Contractor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 33

Hi Karen, I agree the market is heading in this direction and there could be a huge value add for investors and home owners.

This is becoming quite popular in Portland (up to four ADU units allowed on a single family lot) and Vancouver WA.

My suggestion would be to get 3 to 6 plan types. Dial them in material wise and then get a contractor base on board. Once you have a competent team with a couple builds and cycle times completed it should start to streamline. You can use the app Fiverr and get a couple generic floor plans laid out prior to taking it to an architect/design team. 

I'm always interested to talk construction so DM if you had questions. I can also share some plan types.