I used Joe's software and was foolishly caught up in his sales pitch about his "Buying Events" that I paid for his coaching. Now I have, as I am sure we all have, purchased programs that were a waste of money before but this one takes the cake. The strategy is great and I have learned it from some great teachers, got some different points of view but all great info.
I got Joe Crumps "coaching" because he promised in these "buying events" we would get group leaders and we would spend at least half a day role-playing calls and then do coached live calls and then make live calls solo. He promises a step-by-step learning process. That is NOT what he delivered. In fact, out of the about 35 people there, only 1(one) of them had been to his events before and had experience with his training. The "groups" that he said we get in his sales material - were just him pairing us up with each other and said role-play for 30 minutes. Again, I have been to some great bootcamps/workshops and some bad ones and this was one of, if not, the worst one of them all. The most expensive that promised the most and delivered the least!!
As for his PushButton Automarketer software, it is supposed to go and scrap Zillow FSBO listings and automatically text them. First, let me say that I live in a market with over a million people. The first month I started with the software is the only month that I had more than 2(two) leads. Yes, you read that correctly - 1 to 2 leads a month! I started double-checking Zillow manually and there were always at least 15-20 new FSBO's listed that the software did not scrape. It is definitely not worth what he is charging!!
The last thing I will mention is his refund or "If you don't do a deal in 6 months I will give you your money back" guarantee. The issue here is that he makes the requirements nearly impossible to keep week after week. He requires you to talk to several people every week yet his software only gives you 1-2 leads per month. Let me just add in here that I get that you have to go above and beyond to be successful in this business (and I have, and I am) but he sets you up to fail. Even when I tried to cancel my software 3 months early and only asked for two months refunded he said I won't do that but I can add two months to your 6-month subscription. Why would you add two months to a subscription that someone is not happy with because they are not getting the leads it promises?
In my experience, Joe is only about getting his money. He will make it so there is no way you would ever get your money back. In any other class I have ever been in the trainers always talk about deals they have done, gives real-life examples. Joe Crump is the only trainer that has never (as far as I can remember, and it has been only three months since my 6 months "coaching" ended) given any examples of deals he has done. He talks about students deals but I have never heard of a deal he has actually done.
If you want to learn about Lease Options and Creative buying strategies, this is not the person you want to learn from, By Far! There are a lot of good, ethical trainers out there but Joe Crump is not one of them. Look up Vena Jones-Cox, John Jackson, Wendy Patton, or Keith & Shannon French to name a few.
