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All Forum Posts by: John Baker

John Baker has started 5 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: First investment property w/ hard money lending

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

@Heyward Mitchell @Christine Smith - Feel free to connect. I'm not the most seasoned on this topic but I have used a hard money loan recently to faciliate my renovation/flip and would be happy to answer any questions I can!

Post: First Fix and Flip Investment Completed - Cary, NC

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Theodora Precup:

Congrats on getting started!  I am hoping to do something kind of similar.  I bought a house in Cary very recently,  I am "flipping" the basement but I plan on moving renters in asap to house hack.  Would love to learn with you and hear more about your experiences!  

 Thanks! And sure, feel free to reach out and I'm happy to share anything I've learned. 

Post: First Fix and Flip Investment Completed - Cary, NC

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $289,000
Cash invested: $80,000
Sale price: $410,000

Final thoughts - This was a great learning experience. I was disappointed that we did not realize more significant profit but was also happy to not lose money while "learning on the fly". Certainly I'd done my homework through BP and elsewhere, but actual experience was the best way to learn. I look forward to working on additional fix and flip projects now that I have one under my belt along with resources that can help me achieve the most successful outcome.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Knowing that my local real estate market had great opportunities for this type of investment, I was excited to find the "right" property to buy, rehab, and get back on the market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

A wholesaler (found through BiggerPockets!) contacted me about this one. I was out at the property within a few hours of his call with my contractor. After this walkthrough and analyzing the renovation costs and potential margin, we were under contract in less than 24 hours.

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money loan - 90% of sale price and 100% of renovation.

How did you add value to the deal?

Thankfully, the majority of work on the home was cosmetic rather than repairing the roof, foundation, etc. The HVAC did need to be replaced. Otherwise, we added a new kitchen, replaced a dated built-in desk area with a full pantry complete with barn door, new flooring on main living level, paint on exterior and 90% of interior, new light fixtures and repairs to electrical and plumbing (minor).

One change-in-scope to original plan was renovating the hallway and master bath configuration.

What was the outcome?

This was successful in that we sold the property fairly quickly, did not lose money on the deal, and learned from the experience. Certainly room for improvement...and we'll use that knowledge when evaluating the next opportunity.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

More critical analysis on purchase and sale comps. Could have improved on both fronts, leading to more profit.
Having the right team is crucial. This deal helped me to realize what I had already - and what I needed in terms of investor-friendly team members.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Capital 360 - Hard Money Lender

Post: First Fix and Flip Investment Completed - Cary, NC

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $289,000
Cash invested: $80,000
Sale price: $410,000

First Fix and Flip project completed. Some highlights below:

Hard money loan was used to finance 100% of the renovation and 90% of the purchase. Used BiggerPockets forums and resources to find and vet our lender and was pleased with that experience.

Closing on the property was delayed due to back-up in available appraisers (all the re-fi going on + working in a "hot" real estate market). I had to be very diligent about getting the appraisal done so that I did not jeopardize the transaction. Could not rely on the lender to do this and was glad that being pro-active and persistent paid off with a smooth close.

Dealing with the initial contractor - his ballpark estimate on initial walkthrough vs. actual estimate was a difference of approximately 30k. Given that we did not change project scope, this was concerning. I found another contractor that had done many flips in the area whose price for the same work was substantially lower. We thoroughly vetted him and decided to make the switch.

Project scope - I went in with more ambitious designs than were ultimately executed. This was good and bad - yes, these upgrades/updates would likely have pushed my final sale price higher but the expense and time invested to complete them may have neutralized the benefit. I realized it's about finding a balance of those variables and minimizing risk where possible. Ultimately, we did change the configuration of the main hallway and master bath to allow for a "true" master bath (this was a 70s split-level with a very modest master bath originally) which I believed was crucial to getting a higher sale price. This was the contractor's idea and I learned a lot from him on this project.

Timelines - We went over our initial timeline by more than one month. At least two of these weeks were due to the bathroom remodel change in scope. The rest of the time was spent on re-work (paint/finishes needed touching up, multiple times). Realizing that each day of holding the property is expensive, we tried to expedite the finalization of the project as much as possible without sacrificing quality. Lessons learned about being present on-site more often and ensuring the projects are done successfully throughout the process so that we're not scrambling towards the end to bring the various trades back through for re-work.

Final sale - Our final sale price was approximately 20k less than what our realtor had estimated based on comps originally. In an area where homes are sold on average within 1 week of listing, this was not what we anticipated. Further, the home appraised for less than our agreed upon sale price by almost 8k. Again, lessons learned that I need to do my own due diligence and not rely on one opinion for something like the list price and comps which can dramatically effect my profit/loss on the project.

Final thoughts - This was a great learning experience. I was disappointed that we did not realize more significant profit but was also happy to not lose money while "learning on the fly". Certainly I'd done my homework through BP and elsewhere, but actual experience was the best way to learn. I look forward to working on additional fix and flip projects now that I have one under my belt along with resources that can help me achieve the most successful outcome.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Knowing that my local real estate market had great opportunities for this type of investment, I was excited to find the "right" property to buy, rehab, and get back on the market.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

A wholesaler (found through BiggerPockets!) contacted me about this one. I was out at the property within a few hours of his call with my contractor. After this walkthrough and analyzing the renovation costs and potential margin, we were under contract in less than 24 hours.

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money loan - 90% of sale price and 100% of renovation.

How did you add value to the deal?

Thankfully, the majority of work on the home was cosmetic rather than repairing the roof, foundation, etc. The HVAC did need to be replaced. Otherwise, we added a new kitchen, replaced a dated built-in desk area with a full pantry complete with barn door, new flooring on main living level, paint on exterior and 90% of interior, new light fixtures and repairs to electrical and plumbing (minor).

One change-in-scope to original plan was renovating the hallway and master bath configuration.

What was the outcome?

This was successful in that we sold the property fairly quickly, did not lose money on the deal, and learned from the experience. Certainly room for improvement...and we'll use that knowledge when evaluating the next opportunity.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

More critical analysis on purchase and sale comps. Could have improved on both fronts, leading to more profit.
Having the right team is crucial. This deal helped me to realize what I had already - and what I needed in terms of investor-friendly team members.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Capital 360 - Hard Money Lender

Post: Uncharted territory for me: New Investor in Raleigh NC

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

HI Dana,

@Christian Hansen gave you some great pointers here and said most of what I had planned to say. :) 

I'll add that I have a few rentals in the Wake Forest/Raleigh area and have utilized Cozy successfully for each without issue. The site you use to screen your tenants is important but the criteria (noted by Christian above) are even more important. Establish the foundation of what you are willing to accept in terms of credit score/payment history/pets/etc., and then work through the screening process. Using Cozy.co to screen your applicants and then eventually transitioning them to tenants is convenient. I've also used mysmartmove.com for screening. 

If you need any other info on the area or process, feel free to reach out to me directly. Good luck! 

Post: BP Daily Habits Tracker = Goal Accountability

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

Congrats on your first deal, @Nina Granberry!

Post: First Buy & Hold - in the books

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Esther Min:

Absolutely! It's awesome that you referenced the BP book, a book I can truly appreciate as well.

Did you have a real estate agent help you get the comps and MLS for this deal?

Can't wait to hear about your future fix and flip successes!

 Yes, we have an agent that is investor-savvy and helps us locate these deals. A valuable part of the team!

Post: Buy & Hold in downtown Wake Forest, NC

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17

Thank! Yes, this is my first property in WF. 

Post: First Buy & Hold - in the books

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Esther Min:

@John Baker

Thank you for sharing. It was super inspiring!

I agree, hindsight is 2020, I’d love to know what you learned about the area after this first time experience (and wish you had known) or which specific estimates you will refine for future deals?

Hi Esther - glad you found it helpful! 

Regarding the area, my grading of the neighborhood was off slightly based on comps and online demo review. Being able to see it in person, while it might not be a requirement for many experienced investors, was essential for me this first time around. 

That said, one of the items I remember from the BP book on starting out in RE investing is that you aren't looking for properties that you necessarily want to live in yourself. Everyone has their own criteria for evaluating buy/hold and I made sure to balance my personal opinion vs. the property itself. 

Also, it helps to do your homework! This area is just ~2 miles from downtown Raleigh and will be even closer to a proposed ~$2 billion dollar stadium and commercial district which should be developed in the next 3-4 years. Hard to predict the exact effect but we do anticipate properties in that area will appreciate substantially and are looking at others in the area as a result. 

As for refining estimates for future deals, we hit pretty close to the mark on projections. Not underestimating your vacancy rate (especially during these COVID times!) and withholding enough of the gross for CapEx, maintenance, etc., was a learning process for this first investment but better to overestimate than the alternative.

We are now starting on our first fix and flip property nearby! It's been a very busy 6 months but exciting to get started. Let me know if you have any other questions. 

Post: First Buy & Hold - in the books

John BakerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Holly Springs, NC
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 17
Originally posted by @Thomas Enright:

Congrats!! Now keep doing it till you're wealthy. Also, don't sell it. Biggest mistake I made was selling my first one because I thought I had bought it wrong and such. Just hold on to them and refinance if you need to.

 Thank you! Good advice. Hoping to keep this as a solid rental for years to come.