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All Forum Posts by: Joe Smith

Joe Smith has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Originally posted by @Greg Scott:

At 7 units you are in the commercial multifamily space -- an apartment.   Typically you are expected to be a more sophisticated buyer at this point.  If you throw out offers to get them accepted and then back out or re-trade the deal, you can develop a bad reputation with the brokers and may be left out of future deals.  Brokers may not even present your future offers to their sellers.

Brokers will be a bit more forgiving if there are things you could not have known from a property tour (e.g. it has a termite infestation) or things the owner was hiding from you (e.g. they didn't show you the unit that was gutted to the studs).  If you want to save face with the brokers you should build a case for why these hidden / unknowable things have made the deal go south.  

With that in mind, it may be completely worth it to get all your inspections done to have that as evidence of the issues and ideally a quoted cost to resolve them.  Don't come back with nit-picky stuff (e.g. two units needs to be painted).  It needs to be financially significant enough to tank the deal.

Yes, that is my concern. What if nothing significant is found in the inspections? I will go back to SFH until I have more experience.

Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

From the contract wording, you can cancel at any time...no need to do a formal physical inspection..

Exceptional.  This is what I thought too.

@Todd Pultz

Great advice. Thank you.

Yes, I've been able to track down more accurate financials than my quick version for the offer. I have not had any financialss from them, so I had to go do all my own research. I was also worried if nothing much was found in the inspection, but if the numbers still did not work that I would not have much to negotiate with after the inspection.

My offer on my first multi-unit (7) was accepted.  Since then I have been talking to insurance agencies, finance, code inspectors, and researching taxes more carefully.  I no longer think it is a good deal..  I have an inspection coming up in a three days, and we are still below the contingency times.  I know Brandon Turner and other podcast Bigger Pockets stars talk about putting in quick offers, and using the inspection contingency to get out of it if necessary.  This would be my first time, so I have a lot of questions on how this works.  Also, this would have been my first commercial property (over 4), so the commercial aspects are all new to me too.  I've included the wording of the contract below for reference (at the end of the post).  

QUESTIONS:

1. Since doing the Due Diligence, can I get out of it without doing the inspection (and maybe saving on inspection fees?).  The wording seems to indicate maybe.

2. It sounds like I get my deposit money back then.  Any reason why I would not receive this amount back in terms with this situation.

3. Any other tips or ideas about walking from this "deal"?  

I appreciate any help in this matter.

Clause exact wording: "This sale IS contingent upon the results of inspection(s). It is Buyer's responsibility to determine that the condition and permitted use of the property is satisfactory. Buyer may, within 30 days (30 if not specified) from the Execution Date of this Agreement, conduct due diligence (Due Diligence Period), which includes, but is not limited to, verifying that the condition, permitted use, insurability, environmental conditions, boundaries, certifications, deed restrictions, zoning classifications and any other features of the Property are satisfactory. Buyer may request that the property be inspected, at Buyer's expense, by qualified professionals to determine the physical, structural, mechanical and environmental condition of the land, improvements or their components, or for the suitability of the property for Buyer's needs. If, as the result of Buyer's due diligence, Buyer determines that the Property is not suitable for Buyer's needs, Buyer may, prior to the expiration of the Due Diligence Period, terminate this Agreement by written notice to Seller, with all deposit monies returned to Buyer according to the terms of Paragraph 31 of this Agreement. In the event that Buyer has not provided Seller with written notice of Buyer's intent to terminate this Agreement prior to the end of the Due Diligence Period, this Agreement shall remain in full force and effect in accordance with the terms and conditions as more fully set forth in this Agreement."