Originally posted by @Seung Oh:
I am looking for few things...
1. Tax Shelter: high income in the bay area means I am paying a lot of taxes and would love some tax break but buying a million dollar home in the bay area when the rent is cheaper doesn't sound appealing to me. So I am wondering if rental properties might provide some tax shelter or relief for me.
2. Diversification: I don't feel comfortable putting all my life savings into a million dollar house or all into index fund/ ETF stocks. I would like to go half into stock and the other half into real estate to soften the blow when the market falls.
3. Passive Investment: Personally, I am not good at investing or business and less I am involved the better! haha I am willing to learn, read, and research a lot but I wouldn't be interested in spending my weekends fixing or flying to see properties, etc.
4. Long term investment: Cash flow would be nice but honestly I make good income and I am not strapped for cash flow. I think low to medium risk long term investment where I would see my investment grow 8-10 percent every year would make me happy.
Hi Seung. There seems to be a perpetual debate on BP for California investors of OOS vs. in state (Appreciation v cash flow). There seems to be success on both ends, just different characteristics to each. I invest in California but am not opposed to OOS.
My opinion is that if you want to invest in high-priced areas, you should have a long-term horizon to mitigate risk. The ups and downs are quite profound (esp on leveraged $$). I have had the value of a property decline 50% in 3 years, and I've had other properties appreciate 40% in 2 years. I think rental properties in your area would satisfy items 2-4 you mentioned above (long-term). Although there are some tax advantages to rental properties, you most likely won't be able to write-off the passive loss if you make over 100k (single or jointly). You can carry the losses forward to eventually offset gains or realize at time of sale. In other words, the rental property itself doesn't affect my annual tax return if I'm not selling.
I hear you though, California is tricky to navigate because of such a high capital requirement to get in. But everyone I know who has invested in California real estate long-term seems to be doing just fine. Best of luck to you!