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All Forum Posts by: Joshua Nicholas

Joshua Nicholas has started 5 posts and replied 64 times.

Post: First deal, bad credit and large opportunity

Joshua NicholasPosted
  • Commercial Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 65
  • Votes 47

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to purchase my first MF deal and I was hoping the Bigger Pockets community could help me with some issues I'm facing. Brief intro, I'm 27 and I became a commercial real estate agent last year. 

I have poor credit (around a 550) due to some credit cards I allowed my parents to take out while I was in college that were defaulted on. Last year was my first year in real estate and I didn't make much in the way of commissions (lived off my savings) and as such, my tax return is going to be quite pitiful.

But recently I had a personal windfall where I made six figures, and I've raised $1.2mm in equity from some friends and family. In addition, I have a willing guarantor who owns $400mm+ in MF property.

The issue I'm worried about is that some mortgage brokers I've spoken with, and Michael Reinhard's book on commercial mortgages, say that I need to have 3 years of proven income (I changed jobs a bunch after college) as well as good credit (don't have) and previous ownership experience (don't have) in order to get a loan.

On the other hand, when I read things from some other sources like the BP forums, or from investors like Dave Lindahl, they state that with a strong guarantor a bank will still give me a loan to buy a property even if I have weak credit, insufficient net worth or lack of experience.

I'm looking at some deals and I would be looking to borrow 65-70% LTV, non-recourse and 10yr fixed and all of the deals I'm looking at have a 1.6+ DSCR.

Is there any chance I can get a loan with my problems due to the strength of my guarantor or is it futile and I should just get a new job, wait a few years until my credit is 700+ and then attempt to get started.

I'm more nervous than anything about spending countless hours underwriting a deal, spending money on due diligence and asking my guarantor to spend time applying for the loan, only to be embarrassed when I get turned down. I obviously don't want to ruin such a valuable relationship 

Any advice/help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Post: What websites should I use to find owners of "off market" commercial or multi's?

Joshua NicholasPosted
  • Commercial Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 65
  • Votes 47

Can you explain a bit more what your friend does? How are they off market deals if he's finding the deals listed online?

If you wanted to contact the owners in a specific area who own a specific property type, I would suggest PropertyShark.

Post: Why are RE Funds Paying Way Over Value in Select Markets

Joshua NicholasPosted
  • Commercial Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 65
  • Votes 47

@Mike Hurney I'm using El Jefe (the man described above) to build credibility with my equity partners and I'm giving him half of my equity on my first deal.

In return, I'm getting to do a deal probably 3x larger than I would be able to do on my own because my equity partners are infinitely more comfortable.

Post: Why are RE Funds Paying Way Over Value in Select Markets

Joshua NicholasPosted
  • Commercial Real Estate Broker
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 65
  • Votes 47

I used to feel the same way about the ridiculous prices that these guys are paying for assets but now I understand it. For example, last week I sat down for 2 hours with a guy who owns 4,000 units+ in NYC. $400mm+ in holdings, personal net worth of $150mm+ easy.

He told me he borrows at 1.85%. I don't care what you're buying, when your cost of capital (They also give him 75% LTV) is 1.85%, almost any going in cap rate is gonna translate into an incredible return over a 2-5 year horizon. Particularly when compared to the option of US Treasuries yielding you zilch, which is the only real competition when it comes to an asset class being able to handle this volume of investment.

Secondly, they're massively overpaying only in select markets. NYC, Seattle, SF, LA, Boston, DC. These are tier 1 markets, more importantly they're very supply constrained and a hotbed of foreign liquidity flows. Buying a building at a 1% cap rate is something that seems like it makes zero sense. But it might be located in a market that has 5-10% annual rent growth and where there is an insatiable demand for multifamily property. 

Heck I've seen properties in NYC that I thought were EXTREMELY expensive in 2012 but now have appreciated 100% in the last two years alone. 

(And again, when you're using 75% LTV first mortgage at 1.85%, 15% mezzanine debt at 12% and putting down 10% while rents are rising 5-10%/year and interest rates are falling, it's easy to see why they're so eager to buy anything they can get their hands on.)

Third, as a poster above said, these guys are paid to put money out. Even if they think properties are overvalued, they are paid to invest so that's what they're forced to do unless they want to face massive redemptions. On top of this, they've seen this massive liquidity boom make some of their competitors obscenely rich and they don't want to miss out. Classic herd mentality.

Last point, not to be rude but I couldn't disagree more with your final point. I'm not sure about MN, but all of the investors in NYC who are paying huge prices are either family dynasties with limitless funds, or extremely successful investors like Ofer Yardeni. 

These are the guys who can negotiate loan workouts, bring in additional equity partners in order to buy their own debt at a discount during a financial crisis and more or less live in their own world. I wouldn't count on being able to ever buy assets from these guys at a steep discount.