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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Murrell

Jordan Murrell has started 16 posts and replied 155 times.

Post: Looking to network/find realtors/contractors/PM in Memphis!

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Hey Charles, 

I hope this finds you well. I am also an Out of state investor that invests in Memphis. Just like @Stephen Akindona has said... Memphis is a great cash flow city. We BRRRR & flip in Memphis.

Let me know how I can help you and your business. Lets connect!

Post: The Delayed Financing Strategy

Jordan MurrellPosted
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  • Las Vegas, NV
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Originally posted by @Cole Raiford:

@Jordan Murrell I've used delayed financing several times with no issues. We were able to find it at local or regional banks in our area pretty easily. My bank will finance at 75% of the purchase price or 75% of the appraised value, whichever is lower. I rehab the property then refi it so that the appraisal is based on ARV not the as-purchased condition.

Also, you can include the cost of repairs in your HUD at closing if you have a contractor on board that you trust enough to pay up front. The contractor will be paid at closing so that puts the rehab cost in your purchase price. It allows you to finance 75% of the higher purchase price and recoup more/all of your money. Absolutely do not do this with a contractor that you don't know and trust very well.

Good luck!

Hey Cole,

I have heard that this strategy is the best way to go about the process. Did you have to wait for a seasoning period to get the money considering you did some rehab on the property? Or were they able to get your money out as soon as the rehab was complete?

That is also an idea I have only heard about once or twice. I am still building relationships with my contractor, though he has been great completing a flip for us while I am out of state. I am going to message you. Hopefully we can connect further. I would like to hear about your delayed financing experiences!

Post: The Delayed Financing Strategy

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Bruce Lynn:

One alternative might be to fund the purchase with financing.  Make the all cash offer up front, be ready to close with cash, don't make the offer dependent on financing, but finance it anyway with a great lender who can close the deal in your closing timeframe....then you don't have to worry about delayed financing.

That's a good idea. Typically I haven't come across any banks who are able to finance a deal in 14 days? If so, I would love to connect with them!!  

Post: The Delayed Financing Strategy

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

The better question is why trap 25% of your money in the property when you could find a better deal? Distressed off market or wholesaler deals could give you that. An all CASH offer should come with built in equity, value add, or something with great returns. 

I'm not knocking delayed financing but I don't see the point of paying at or near market value. Check out the "1950s Texas home walkthrough" video on the BP channel. The property came from a personal referral aka off market. 

Jaron, 

Thank you for your message. We wanted to get this property under contract quickly as there is a value add component as well. With there being tenants currently in 3 of the 4 units we aren't able to get in and rehab the whole project at once. We would look to own the property then do the value add component once the leases are up to raise the rents. Leaving 25% of our money in this particular deal is not very worrisome as the cashflow is very good and potential cash flow after the rehab will be even better. 

I will most definitely check out 1950's Texas home Walkthrough. 

Thank you again!

Post: The Delayed Financing Strategy

Jordan MurrellPosted
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We have most recently got a property under contract in the Memphis midtown area.

It is 2 duplexes parceled on the same lot. We are looking to purchase all cash for this property as the market is extremely hot and financed offers sometimes just aren't cutting it.

I was listening to the BiggerPockets Real Estate show quite some time ago and a guest on the show spoke about the delayed financing strategy that she was using to purchase her properties. Having an all cash offer is a much stronger offer and sometimes allows you to offer less as there is no financing contingency. With that said, we have got the property under contract and used an all cash offer.

We are looking to use the delayed finance strategy to refi out our cash and have a mortgage on the property. Delayed financing is a way of purchasing a home in which you pay cash up front, then almost immediately or shortly thereafter obtain a cash out refinance to mortgage the property, which returns a big chunk of your money to you. Depending on the bank 70-75% refinanced out.

Any suggestions on which bank or credit unions offer this service? Have you utilized this strategy before? 

We are going to continue to call lenders to make sure we are getting the best rates.

All input and suggestions would be great.

Post: 30 Properties turns into 35 properties

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Timothy Lewis:

I feel like I'm watching a Netflix series. Thanks for the follow up. Hang in there and best of luck. I'm rooting for you!

I appreciate the kind words! Thank you Tim

Post: 30 Properties turns into 35 properties

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Julius Chinn:

$7,000,000 / 35 properties is $200,000 per.   Must have some real clunkers in there.

Did you go see what you are buying.

Yes. I have run the numbers. Had other investor's run the numbers as well as potential cash buyers! We have drove by 22 properties thus far. Another 13 to go.

Post: 30 Properties turns into 35 properties

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Carlos Ptriawan:

Wow, what a story. Quite funny too.

Thank you Carlos! I will be sure to keep everyone up to date with how it goes. 

Post: 30 Properties turns into 35 properties

Jordan MurrellPosted
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We are currently working on putting a deal under contract here in Las Vegas. The property portfolio consists of 30 properties.

If you have read my previous posts, you’ll have context and my back story. If you haven’t click here.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/910155-30-property-portfolio-and-45-property-porfolio?page=1#p5318603


At first thought, we were going to look to acquire about 4-7 properties. After I posted about this deal in the forums and connecting with great people from BiggerPockets. We are looking at purchasing the entire portfolio.


Now, by no means is this going to be an easy project so it has been all hands on deck. I have been speaking with the seller's family friend who has been managing the entire portfolio. These sellers are quite motivated as they are looking to travel back to their home country. They would love to sell as quickly as possible allowing them to travel back with a nice pocket full of cash. When we received the property list, the estimated value for the portfolio being $10M. Rental income each month is around $55,000. 

I asked the PM, “how did you come up with this $10M number?” 

She flat out said, “I went on Zillow and typed in the property address and saw estimated market value. I input those numbers into my spreadsheet and it came out at this number.” 

I ran some numbers and this is way above market value for the portfolio. With that said, zillow hasn't adjusted all its property values. There are a few in the portfolio that are worth more than what zillow has estimated which looks like a great opportunity. We don’t necessarily want to pay market value for properties that A. Potentially need rehab B. Have tenants in the properties not paying C. I don’t feel the need to offer market value for a seller who is looking to offload their portfolio. But we don't mind paying Zillow's estimated value for the properties that would higher equity. 

She assured me that only 3 aren’t paying and 3 properties are empty. She also miscalculated how many properties are in the portfolio… There are 34 properties and the sellers live in another one of their properties making it 35.


The property manager said that they would be looking to sell individually if they can’t find someone to purchase them all but they want to leave as soon as possible. This sounds like a great opportunity for us. After back and forth with the property manager I said it’s time for us to start negotiations with the seller but there was just one problem. They don’t speak English! So I just said okay and gave up from there...

Well instead.... I reached out to everyone I know. Turns out, my rockstar realtor from Memphis said his wife speaks Mandarin and she may be able to help translate. I jumped on the phone with her and she said she was more than happy to translate.

They were initially stuck at $10M. Then, came down to $9M. Then more back and forth, came down to $8.4. After 15 mins of conversation they were down to $8.14M.

I should have read ‘Never split the difference’ again right before the call because silence was winning. Mirroring their questions was working. They are negotiating against themselves.

The number we proposed was $6.1M. We have been holding strong at this number. We are hoping to get them to about $6.8-$7.2M. 

I have been speaking with a couple potential cash buyers. Originally we were looking to wholesale the whole portfolio but we are looking to acquire them for our portfolio. Use the equity in some of these properties to leverage into more assets, wholesale some of the properties to fix and flippers and then lastly sell the properties to others who may want the rest of properties at a good price.

Post: 30 property portfolio & 45 property porfolio

Jordan MurrellPosted
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Originally posted by @Sarah 'Sadika' J.:

@Jordan Murrell love your story. Keep us posted.

I will for sure!