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All Forum Posts by: Jason Krawitz

Jason Krawitz has started 43 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Thanks Dennis! I'll settle for sipping diet coke on the tailgate of my 2000 chevy pickup if there is a realistic path to being able to do that with what I have to offer!

Originally posted by @Dennis M.:

Agreed. Rent is too low to make a good investment for renting . Actually I’d find another job and keep trying to funnel extra money into side projects in real estate . Your not ready to be sipping pina coladas on a remote beach yet lol don’t get in over your head

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Thanks Thomas! I'm willing and mentally prepared to have another w2. However, I want to force myself to turn this into an opportunity to kick the real-estate/entrepreneur side of me into high-gear even if a w2 is part of the picture/plan! 


Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

Don't count on surviving long without a w2. I would suggest you do nothing until you find another job. You will need it to qualify for financing and 275K is not enough to generate the income fast enough to survive. You will not make it in investing without leverage.

Once you are reemployed sell the rental, rent is too low to qualify as a investment.....negative cash flow is a bad way to start.

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Thanks Arlan! Being most familiar with this path, it is what I lean towards. I've never concerned myself with the under-performance of my 1 rental but that was because I was "comfortable" in my day job and quite honestly, too lazy and un-motivated to do the work needed to make this happen. Today, I'm in a completely different place mentally and literally. 

Originally posted by @Arlan Potter:

I would sell the $275K house that rents for a measly 1595 and buy 5 $50K houses that rent for $800/month

With $4000/month rental income you are on the way.

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Thank you Joe - With the time I now have, flipping is a much more realistic goal than it was when I was working 50+ hours a week at my corporate job. I've renovated two houses but never sold a property. One is now my rental and the other is my new personal residence. Finding deals is where I need to spend a lot of time and energy! Before being fired, I took a day off and spent it with a friend that is very successful as a real-estate investor. We drove all around middle-TN knocking on doors of newly published foreclosures/pre foreclosures (not sure if I have the lingo down?). I was able to see and experiences a full day of that deal-finding strategy which was enlightening and helpful. He gained a couple leads off of our efforts that day. 

Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

I would do 2 things , first find out the licensing to become a contractor . Second I would look to do a flip . 

Becoming a general contractor , you line up subs and do work for homeowners and maybe flippers . ( you are using their money , getting deposits , lots of other discussions about that )  At the same time you now have subs and when a deal comes by you are already connected for your flip .

 First suggestion, is to take the cash you have...and take one full "conservative" year's worth of expenses out.  Set it aside to be used exclusively for those "bills".

Take the rest, and invest it in flips.

Reinvest the profit from those flips into more flips.

Once your "seed" money is large enough, continue to flip it...but spend ONLY the profit from those flips on cash flow properties.

Repeat....

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Thank you Matthew! That's a route I hadn't yet considered but will now! 3 of my college buddies are in a partnership with 1 a GC, 1 an agent, and 1 the books/manager of their operation. Your suggestion makes a lot of sense! 

Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

I would do 2 things , first find out the licensing to become a contractor . Second I would look to do a flip . 

Becoming a general contractor , you line up subs and do work for homeowners and maybe flippers . ( you are using their money , getting deposits , lots of other discussions about that )  At the same time you now have subs and when a deal comes by you are already connected for your flip .

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36
Awesome story and advice Jeff. Thank you!

Originally posted by @Jeff C.:

Hey Jason,

I was lucky enough to be laid off from my job in 2010. Turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. At this point I make nearly monthly what I made yearly then. I too had been doing some buy and hold investing while I worked there starting in 2006.. and I felt a layoff coming on long before it actually happened and started saving all my pennies. It took about a year or year and a half longer for me to get laid off than I anticipated. I survived two or three rounds of layoffs before the one that got me. That gave me some additional time to save cash. Now it was time to figure out what to do with myself.

After a lot of studying and a number of dry runs I picked up a property at trustees sale, and had a friend committed to buying it almost immediately, before I had even finished evicting the current occupants. As soon as they were out, we closed and I made something like $20k (and I had actually given my buddy a great deal). Not life changing but enough to let me know that there was something there. It was proof of concept. I did a bunch more deals over the next couple of years, moving up to two or three at a time, but at that point I was doing most of the work myself.. which assured the profitability of each deal but put a pretty low cap on the number of deals I could handle at a time. It was clear it was time to start stepping away from the hammer and nails part of the business. 

Hiring out all the labor greatly increased the number of deals I could handle, and I pushed it up to 6-7 at a time. Comparing the 7-8% net return I was getting on rental properties VS the 25%+ annualized returns I was seeing from the flips convinced me it was finally time to bring the money home and roll it into the business. I had been reluctant to put all my eggs in one basket, but the returns were just so much higher doing the flips that I just couldn't watch my capital languish like that anymore. I also finally had real confidence that I knew what I was doing. Divesting myself of all my rentals gave me the capacity to do about 11-12 deals at a time, and I started feeling like I was really making money.

I don't know if this will last forever (it certainly isn't getting any easier), but I'm in a much better financial position to weather whatever comes now than I would have been had I just grabbed another menial job and relied on the small amount of passive income that my rentals were providing. If I do want to go back to rentals, I have a heck of a lot more cash to buy them now (and I probably will again at some point when I don't want to be quite so active and / or want to diversify). 

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36

Thank you all for your responses! Over the past 4 years, those of you on this forum have been incredibly helpful! Thank you!

Post: I was fired this week! What could you do with $275K?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36

I lost my job this week! My wife, father-in-law, sister, and closest friends tell me this could be an answer to prayer and that I would have never fully pursued my passion for real-estate if this hadn't happened. I've been slowly and conservatively investing in real-estate the entire time I've worked for a corporation. We own a paid for single family home worth $275k that rents for $1595/month. I also have about $150K equity in my personal residence.

How much monthly income could you produce if you had $275K + your time and sweat to offer? How would you do it? I'm eager to hear your thoughts and ideas! If it matters, my preference is rental/cash-flow properties. However, I want to keep an open mind! 

Also - Have any of you transitioned into full-time real-estate after losing your "real job"? I'd love to hear those stories!

Thanks!

- Jason

Post: Deposit to hold or just sign the dang Lease?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36

Thank you for all of the replies. I will get them to sign the lease and collect the deposit, which is the equivelant of one months rent, and make the first month's rent due prior to handing them the keys. I appreciate all of your time and thoughtful replies!

Post: Deposit to hold or just sign the dang Lease?

Jason KrawitzPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Mount Juliet, TN
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 36

I may have just thought of a reason. If they sign the lease today, I'll require their deposit + full first months rent. If they only sign a deposit to hold agreement, then they have 4 more months before having to fork over their entire first month's rent. Would there be any other factors to consider?