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All Forum Posts by: Jim Pellerin

Jim Pellerin has started 8 posts and replied 870 times.

Post: Finding a buyer first?

Jim PellerinPosted
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Quote from @Karl Washington:

Hello,

I'm new to wholesaling. Just learning at this point. Is it okay to find a buyer first? What happens if you get a property under contract but aren't able to find a buyer?

Thanks for your help

 @Karl Washington a lot of wholesalers say "if you find a good deal, it's easy to find a buyer". I prefer to find buyers first, for 2 reasons.

1. You are looking for properties that you know your buyers will want 

2. It's less stressful knowing you have buyers waiting for the deals you are looking for.

If you happen to find a deal that none of your buyers want then you could always joint ventuire with another wholesaler

so your first 2 activities should be 

1. build a list of buyers

2, build a list of disposition wholesalers

Post: Starting out in Saint John New Brunswick.

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Quote from @Justin Rideout:

I'm planning on starting with wholesaling as I don't have much starting capital but mainly looking to get in touch with other investors in the area for some guidance. The main struggle I'm having is finding information on recently sold property's to determine the ARV. The end goal would be to BRRRR rentals but as I said I don't have a lot of money and am very interested in the business. Id be very grateful if anyone is willing to reach out with advice.

 @Justin RideoutDon't apologize for wholesaling because you don't have enough money to purchase. That's the right approach. Most people look at creative financing techniques that end up getting them overleveraged and they end up in a negative cashflow situation.

As far as finding comps to determine your ARV, you need to build a relationship with a local broker/agent who can help you out. Normally, I would recommend some tools but I don't think these tools have Canadian data in them. (fyi, I live in Ottawa and lived in Saint John for 2 years)

Post: Which mentor should I choose?

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Quote from @Julie Norris:

@Jim Pellerin Do you have suggestions? I just attended the Multifamily Mindset 3 day event and their Mentorship program is 40K. I did not purchase the mentorship program but many people at the 3 day event did. I'm at the very beginning stages of multifamily investing and would benefit from some mentorship. If you have recommendations please share.

@Julie NorrisYes I have a suggestion. I sent you a message. 

Post: Which mentor should I choose?

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Quote from @Julie Norris:

@Jim Pellerin Do you have suggestions? I just attended the Multifamily Mindset 3 day event and their Mentorship program is 40K. I did not purchase the mentorship program but many people at the 3 day event did. I'm at the very beginning stages of multifamily investing and would benefit from some mentorship. If you have recommendations please share.

@Julie Norris

Post: First rental property not cash flowing

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Quote from @Greg R.:
Quote from @Michael Mackney:

Hey everyone. I've had a duplex for the last 5 months in a C/C+ area. Original numbers and inspection report made it look like on paper that I would be cash flowing after raising rents to market rents but month after month so far, something maintenence wise comes up that leaves me in the red a few hundred a month after I calculate reserves, property management, etc. The market in the area has overall appreciated but I don't know if I can simply rely on appreciation to offset negative cash flow.

Should I sell with the appreciated price and use it as a learning experience before moving into an area that might have less maintenence issues or try and hold on to it?


If you've owned for 5 months, you probably bought near the top of the bubble. If you are able to get out of the property and break even, or just a little bit behind, you should do that and count your blessings. 

A lot of folks are going to tell you that it's always a good time to buy, which isn't true. There are good times to buy and there are bad times to buy. You might have someone on the forums try to argue that they purchased a home run in 2008, but most people who bought at the top of the bubble lost everything. 

There are very strong signs that show an imminent decline (a crash) in the housing market. You'd be much better off buying in a crashing market than in a bubble. 

 @Greg R. Agree 100%. Look what I wrote earlier in the thread.

Post: First rental property not cash flowing

Jim PellerinPosted
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Quote from @Michael Mackney:

Hey everyone. I've had a duplex for the last 5 months in a C/C+ area. Original numbers and inspection report made it look like on paper that I would be cash flowing after raising rents to market rents but month after month so far, something maintenence wise comes up that leaves me in the red a few hundred a month after I calculate reserves, property management, etc. The market in the area has overall appreciated but I don't know if I can simply rely on appreciation to offset negative cash flow.

Should I sell with the appreciated price and use it as a learning experience before moving into an area that might have less maintenence issues or try and hold on to it?

@Michael Mackney I subsidized my properties for years and lost a lot of money. I had over 100 properties that on paper looked like they were cash-flowing but after maintenance and management were actually a negative return. And then the sub-prime crisis hit in 2008 - 2010 and the market fell out and any speculation I had on appreciation was done. I lost millions. 

This is why I don't advocate investing in single-family homes. Too much liability, especially if you are over-leveraged. My recommendation to everyone I coach now is to focus on short-term income generating strategies such as wholesaling and fix and flips so that you can raise enough funds to either invest in larger apartment buildings or start your own syndication with other investors. 

Post: Which mentor should I choose?

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@Ryan Myers If you are interested in multi-family investing, then I wouldn't look at any of these.

Post: What is one thing you are struggling with right now?

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Quote from @Brian Adams:

For years I had a passion to pursue investing in real estate and I never got much traction until I was so clear in my mind on my desired outcome.

In 2011 I quit my job and set out to buy and sell multifamily.

Early on in my journey, I struggled to find investors to fund deals. Now the flip has happened for me where I don't have enough quality deals to present to my investors.

What are you struggling with right now?


I wouldn't say struggling. I have lots of good deals. And lots of buyers looking at them. Just making sure I manage everything so nothing falls thru the cracks. I had a good $300M+ deal fall out because the sellers broker misrepresented the property and got the buyer upset so he walked.

Post: Real Estate Investor

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Quote from @Lorraine Gaudin:

I've found the names and now I will go skip trace them thanks for the information. 

@Lorraine Gaudin

 That's correct. You're welcome.

Post: What are the top 3 problems when you can’t find an end buyer?

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@Mike Schorah

The general problem is the deal isn't good or good enough to attract any of your buyers.

1. The ARV is overestimated - This is very common when wholesalers present deals to buyers. Make sure you have at least 3 and maybe 5 strong comps that support your ARV.

2. The rehab costs are underestimated - This is also very common. Wholesalers tend to underestimate costs to make the deal look better than it is. Flippers will do their own calculations and are better at it than wholesalers, in most cases.

3. Price is too high - when putting a property under contract, you want to make sure you allow for all the cost items and a nice profit. A lot of times I see deals are way overpriced because the wholesaler didn't allow for carrying costs and acquisition and disposition costs. This can make up for as much as 15% of the ARV. And most flippers want to make at least 15% profit. And don't forget to factor in your wholesaling fee.