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All Forum Posts by: Jim Hwang

Jim Hwang has started 5 posts and replied 19 times.

Quote from @Jacqueline Gardiner:

HiJim, I'm sure there are others who will be better at helping you with the calculation, but you'll need to provide the total depreciation that you took on the property during the 15 years that you rented it out. Also, do you have any other capital losses or gains? And, do you have any passive losses from other properties that you might use to offset the capital gain? (Check your most recent tax return for passive loss carry-overs.) Or, can you generate such a loss by making another purchase in the year that you sell? It sounds like you haven't sold yet, which is good, so you might want to consult with a tax professional to help guide your decision. Other strategies to consider are: (1) investment in an opportunity zone fund (though I don't believe the benefits are as good as they were a few years ago), or (2) investing the funds in another property or fund where you can get bonus depreciation in the first year. GOOD LUCK!


 Jacqueline, many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I never claimed depreciation the entire time I owned it (except for tax year 2021 when I finally was made aware).  No other cap gains or losses, as this was my only rental property.  I actually closed the sale of the property last month (December), and my proceeds are in the 1031 qualified intermediary.  The good news (maybe) is that since it's a new year, if the 1031 fails and I realize the gains, I'll have all of 2023 to offset it as you mentioned with another investment using cost segregation/bonus depreciation.  I'm still trying to figure out how much in cap gains tax I'd need to offset to figure out what the "break-even" point is. 

Hello all, I'm trying to figure out the opportunity cost of doing a 1031 vs. Taking the tax hit in order to have more liquid capital to invest. I'm getting a wide range of estimates as a novice and would really appreciate anyone's help. The rental property was purchased for 325K and sold for 500K. It was jointly owned and so my gross gain is 250K. I netted 115K after mortgage payoff, commissions, and closing costs. I'm married filing jointly and have only 20K of taxable W2 income due to having a foreign income exemption and wife being a homemaker. Importantly, I rented it out the past 15 years, so the depreciation recapture is the real monkey on my back. Minimal other cap expenditures, as it was a new A class property when purchased. I would be happy to give any other info you need. I'm new to BP and I can't believe how much people here want to help. Thanks!

Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Jim Hwang, One thing your QI hasn't mentioned is that your 1031 must be complete before the date of your next tax filing.  If you sold in late 2022 then your 1031 must be complete before filing your 2022 taxes.  Now of course the answer to get your full 180 days is to simply file an extension.  But the reason for this quirk is what is important.

Your 1031 exchange will always be reported on your tax return for the year in which you sold the property.  That is the year the 1099 is generated by the title company.  And the year you potentially recognize the gain. If you sell in 2022 the 1031 will be reported on your 2022 taxes with the form 8824.  If you don't complete your 1031 exchange then your accountant doesn't report anything and you recognize the gain in 2022.  And have to pay the tax in 2023.  It's like the 1031 never happened.

But in the rare event like yours where you don't receive the funds until 2023 even if you don't complete a 1031 then you have an option to treat the sale as an installment sale in 2022 with the funds received in 2023.  If your accountant sets it up this way then even though you don't complete your 1031 exchange you will still get until April of 2024 to pay the tax.

These options - full deferral, no deferral, or installment sales treatment are all why your 1031 has to be over by the time you file your next taxes.

Dave, super helpful- thank you. I'm going to make another post to ask anyone for help estimating on what my actual capital gains tax liability is. 
Quote from @Ash Hegde:

Form 3115 is correct for catching up missed depreciation. Automatic change #7. 


 Thanks, Ash; I'll mention "automatic change #7" and hope the CPA understands :).

Quote from @Chris Davidson:

@Jim Hwang I use Idaho Tax and Bookkeeping Ilir is very knowledgably a CPA and EA


 Thanks, Chris!  I had an old childhood friend named Ilir and haven't heard that name since.

Quote from @Jon Taylor:

@Jim Hwang,

What state do you live in?


 Idaho

Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Jim Hwang. ask your 1031 intermediary. I'm betting they will know the answers since this is what they specialize in.

My guess is that you don't have any tax liability for the 2022 tax year because with a 1031 exchange you didn't receive the proceeds. I think that is the point of having a licensed 1031 intermediary hold the money. It is only a taxable gain for you when you actually take receipt of the proceeds and to this point you have not done that. 

 Thanks, Kevin- makes sense and gives me time in 2023 to find ways to mitigate the tax burden.  I never claimed depreciation for the 15+ years of owning the sold rental property (ignorance and laziness, I admit); yet, I know the IRS will want the depreciation recapture anyway as if I had; is there anything I can do to mitigate that?  The best I could find was using IRS form 3115 (change in accounting form).

Hello all, I have about 3 weeks to nominate a replacement property for my 1031 exchange and am looking for a CPA who can answer questions regarding the tax liability when the replacement period straddles tax years like mine does, as well as some other nuances of my situation. Thanks!

Post: 2019 Land Geek vs. Land Academy

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Quote from @Nikolas Engel:

@Jay Hinrichs

I am sorry to hear about the death of your project lead. 

Any motivation to take the project of the shelve? I would be interested in learning more. 

Thanks, Nik

Count me as another interested observer who is looking into The Land Geek and similar programs.