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All Forum Posts by: Jason H.

Jason H. has started 12 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45

  @Colin L. @Eric Teran @Bryan LaRoche I’m glad to see all you architects finally coming out of the woodwork...j/k.  Funny how it took an engineer speaking out to make the architects have a conversation amongst their own.  Obviously our road to becoming an architect with the years of education and training, licensure and practice were all very similar, but what’s interesting is the diversity of how we adapted the mindset shift towards real estate to our own unique careers and goals.  

I’m also curious to hear how your experience with building, design and architecture has influenced the way you invest in real estate compared to other non-architect investors.  I often think our biggest strength which ironically is also our biggest weakness, is the emotion that we have with design that on one hand is the catalyst that produces great architecture, but at the same time such emotion allows us to willingly work for low pay or accepting a lower fee, just so that we have the opportunity to get something built...again to satisfy that emotion.  

How does ‘emotion’ factor into your investing strategy? Or does it?

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Ali Altieri:

I am an interior designer and just got my real estate license. My plan is to learn the industry, make some money from RE, continue freelance design and help other realtors with design along the way - I am hoping that one end feeds the other and vice versa. My ultimate goal is investment properties, rentals, flips, etc. I think that the ID and RE compliment each other well and if I am smart about it, I can raise my our starting capital in the next couple years to control the investments myself. 

Hi Ali...Great to see an interior designer joining in on the discussion.  If you have experience with residential interior design, I can definitely see you capitalizing on your skills in the short term rental market.  Obviously the virus has temporarily killed off a lot of the metro market STRs but if you can somehow break into the vacation markets and market to those who are looking to up their listing and make them stand out more with professional interior design services, that would be a great opportunity. 

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Maimouna Sow:

@Jason H.

Exactly.

Though to be clear my family isn’t “STARVING”

I meant as an immigrant there are certain things expected of you, and one of those things is to actually make money when u come to America. It’s not enough just to have a cool job. U gotta be able to come home with something to show for.

of course...I wasn’t referring to yours and was just saying it as a figure of speech to explain my point.  I was born here but come from an immigrant family so I know what you mean.

Post: A lot of negative cash flowing properties

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Stephen Brown:
Originally posted by @Jason H.:

@Stephen Brown @Stone Jin. You guys are absolutely right about killer taxes.  No way around it but to avoid investing in these areas.  Where I invest in PA, you can count on paying anywhere between $2,200-3,000/door per year...and these are not SFRs.  These are <1,000sf units in a duplex set up.  Despite high taxes, no negative cash flow.

 What about off-market deals? I had a conversation with an investor who found an undervalued property and now has made it cash-flow with high taxes. The marketed appreciated substantially and he refinanced his property, used the cash to purchase more. Quite the story.


 You need a good source of lead generation for off-market deals.  With so much talk of multifamily investing, demand has been high for 2-4 units with only properties having fundamental problems still sitting on the market - either structural issues, undesirable location or seller not willing to budge on asking.  Then there are also sellers who only want to sell their multi's to owner occupants for sentimental reasons, which I have personally come across recently and lost out to someone else.

Bottom line, yes you can make the high taxes work.  Just keep an eye out for a new purchase price spread triggering a tax reassessment of the current assessed value in your municipality.  School boards are notorious for wanting whatever they can get their hands on.

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Maimouna Sow:

@Jason H.

I’m currently an architectural designer.

I got interested in Real Estate after I realized I can’t make as much as I want o make an as architect.

There’s this understanding ( the architecture profession is for affluent ppl) as an immigrant, I actually need to make money to survive and to send back home in forms of gifts as well in the form of leading development in my home villages.

The goal is to Brr until I can replace my income,

Once my income is replaced I can then quit my job and design the projects I actually want to design. Which is institutional infrastructure/ buildings that will further my ppl... I

Comunity centers, schools, water wells, energy farms.... it might be a bit too ambitious, but even if I just accomplish portion of my goals, it’ll still be a victory.

SO, in the end, THE COMBO OF REAL ESTATE AND BUILDING DESIGN AND PLACE MAKING IS JUST WHAT I NEED.

Totally agreed.  If you walk into any of the boutique starchitects offices, they are often staffed with young designers that come from families that aren't "starving" by any means.  But it works somehow, the pay is notoriously low in those firms, and yet there are people knocking on the door wanting to work there accepting low pay for a chance to work with a celebrity.  The corporate firms are where you start to see less of that and more professionals earning a decent salary through a gradual career trajectory.  However, glad to see another architect who jumped out from the tunnel vision that so many of us fall in...there's definitely a balance worth striving for.

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45

@Filipe Pereira. I don’t think many people have used the term “former architect” and “regret” in the same sentence.  Haha.  But the low turnout on this really has proven my point.  I think they’re all too busy drawing toilet details while sheltering-in-place!

Post: Valuing 2-4 Unit Properties Based on Rents

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45
Originally posted by @Jonathan Greene:

CAP doesn't work for 4 units and less, it's not the same type of evaluation because it's not a commercial product. You can use anything to negotiate down, but under market rents are pretty standard when you are buying an off-market multi-family. It's a pretty big spread between $825 and $1,300 so I would be real sure that you have the comps to back that up. Too many investors don't understand comps and look at all rentals in the area, but apartment rentals are not applicable or comparable to rentals in a multi-family home. You have to tailor your comps to multi rentals only and be very diligent about assessing how close they are to yours. If you miscalculate your expected turnover rent, it can kill you. It's also dependent on the leases of the tenants and likelihood of them leaving. Ideally for a four-plex, you would have one unit vacant on delivery to renovate it and then go step by step as leases end.

Totally agree with Jonathan on all points.  Four units and less don’t appraise using income approach.  They will likely go off of square footage and/or per unit cost.  I would have to agree on the rent comps too...A multi-unit residential property isn’t going to have the same amenities as larger apartment buildings with facilities.  Your rents are going to be in alignment with the rest of the neighborhood, with the only legit way of getting a bump is to renovate and/or provide central A/C.

Post: A lot of negative cash flowing properties

Jason H.
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45

@Stephen Brown @Stone Jin. You guys are absolutely right about killer taxes.  No way around it but to avoid investing in these areas.  Where I invest in PA, you can count on paying anywhere between $2,200-3,000/door per year...and these are not SFRs.  These are <1,000sf units in a duplex set up.  Despite high taxes, no negative cash flow.

Post: How many RE investors are Architects?

Jason H.
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45

I will start off by disclaiming that I cannot take credit for the idea behind this post.  I recently read and responded to a post initiated by @Adam Zach surveying all members wanting to see who in the real estate investing world came from an engineering background.  I posted a reply mentioning that the ironic thing about this topic was that the group of people who should know THE MOST about real estate (minus the investing part) were architects!  And then went on to say that it was likely because of an architect’s (low) income versus an engineer’s which prevents architects from investing.  But then I gave it more thought, and what’s even more ironic is that...most architects are so preoccupied with their craft that they fail to see the what their clients are doing right under their noses...Developing buildings to make money!  I know there’s at least a couple of us out there...let’s represent!

Post: How Many RE Investors are Engineers?

Jason H.
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago IL / Pittsburgh, PA / NW Florida/30A
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 45

The funny ironic thing about this conversation (for me) is that the group of people who should know the most about real estate (note I didn't say real estate 'investing') are architects!  But in the end, it's really a testament to the income of architect versus engineers (and the rest of the professions)!  As an architect, I am so glad to have found finally found real estate investing, but often wonder why the light bulb didn't go off earlier...when I was helping all my clients design apartment buildings, I was there just taking a paycheck...Still, never too late.