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All Forum Posts by: Scott Armstrong

Scott Armstrong has started 3 posts and replied 8 times.

Hey James,

Thanks for the shout out. The house is actually in Monroe. I don't think there's normally a lot of rentals here but it seems to me that ever since the market crash, a lot more places were being rented while people waited for the market to recover. 

Which was my case as well. I'm pretty anxious to get these tenants out so I can get the place on the market.

Hello, Thanks for the idea but I'm home ridden because of my health. I was just hoping to not have to crack open the phone book and pick one at random. The last day to pay was only Sunday, so I have not done that yet. I have sent texts and emails informing them that they missed paying and that I would be proceeding as per the terms of the lease.

Hello,

Looking for a recommendation for a lawyer to handle an eviction. I have a signed lease that tenant has broken by not paying rent. Need someone who can handle this quickly. Thanks.

Scott

Hello,

I'm looking for comments/suggestions on the situation outlined below.

I've done a lot of looking around and have read many different posts but have not seen anything that closely resembles my situation. I'll try and lay it all out but if I miss something please feel free to ask. Thanks upfront for all your replies/thoughts.

I have a house that we bought ten years ago in an very unique area of Orange County NY that is within commuting distance to NYC. Most of the houses in the area were built in the 40's as summer cabins for residents of NYC. Over the last thirty years most of the houses have been converted to year round, but some are still get away places and the area is dotted with houses that are in various states of disrepair and abandonment. There are several reasons this area has lagged behind other areas close by. One is the extremely restrictive zoning laws. Two is the 'roads' are privately owned and it's unclear by whom, possibly a corporation that owned them many years ago but has since gone under and the town has refused to take over the roads because they don't meet town standards. So they are not well maintained. Three, some of the houses only have access to a community based water company that only provides service in the summer. Our property has its own well so that's not an issue for us.

Four years ago during the downturn we scored a great deal on another house about twenty minutes closer to the city that we financed with a mortgage provided by a family member who gave us extremely generous terms. So when we moved out four years ago we half heartedly tried on and off to find a buyer and/or a renter but we didn't put a lot of effort into it because the market was crashed and the mortgage didn't cost us enough monthly compared to our income/work load to adequately motivate us to deal with it. Fast forward to now. Since moving I have lost a lot of my earning ability because of some severe health issues and so I'm getting more motivated now to figure something out.

We originally paid $115,000 and we still have a BOA mortgage (5.875%) that we owe 65k on. We could afford to pay that off but doing so would leave us spread precariously thin since we'd have to spend about all of our liquidity to do it. Also I'm fully aware of the due on sale clause.

The other day we met a couple that has been renting just down the street for the last three years at $1000/month. The house they rent is very similar in size (~800sq. Ft.) but has a much smaller non fenced yard. Since they expressed interest in buying and are familiar with the area and all its uniqueness I think they have excellent potential. They asked me what we would list for if we put it up on the market. I got their number and told them I'd be in touch.

According to some of the web based RE appraisal sites the home is currently worth about 100k. I assume that means in move in condition, however, sometime over the summer someone broke in and stole some of the copper plumbing. It's a tiny house with only one bathroom so it's not like they took a lot but it's definitely something to be done. Also I was in the midst of replacing the kitchen floor when my health issue occurred so that's something that needs to be finished by whomever buys it because I can no longer do the work. I mention all this to say that I figure I'll be asking around 90-95k, so there's plenty of room to come down and still have enough to cover what we owe. This should also give any buyer enough room to do the work that needs to be down and still not be underwater when they're done.

Since we're going to be taking a loss of 20-30k on the sales price difference, I was hoping to be able to entice them (or another buyer) by providing seller financing. I mean whoever buys it is probably going to have to get a mortgage from somewhere, why not us? The profit we could get from holding the mortgage could help take the sting out of the sales price difference. My wife is not as comfortable as I am to go this route because of the risk but I think it's worth it for the extra profit.

Mostly I'm interested in seeing if there might be someone in the area that would be interested in helping us navigate this and/or partnering with us to share the risk and the profit? If we didn't have all the risk it would be immensely more palatable to my wife. Honestly she'd be happy if we just sold it for what we owe BOA and were done with it but I can't see leaving all those potential dollars out there for someone else to make.

I do have a lawyer who I've used twice in the past for my previous two purchases (the one bank financed, the other cash) but I think this might be beyond her comfort zone. So at the very least can someone recommend a good lawyer in the area that would be knowledgeable about how to proceed? Also I'm hip to using a loan service provider for handling the mortgage, but I'm not entirely clear on how to get to that point, if I can't find someone to help us navigate through?

Thanks for reading and I'll keep reading around the forums in the meantime to gain more knowledge.

Scott

A couple more points/questions.

One, I wish I knew about this board ten years ago when I was looking for my first mortgage. I got quite the run around about my employment situation regardless of my fairly high income to expense/price of house ratio. I was told when we got our mortgage that it was my income combined with my GF at the time employment history (long term solid employment) that qualified us for the mortgage. Looking back that seems maybe not to have actually been the case and I've been under the wrong impression for all these years.

Secondly, friends have less than 2k to spend upfront. I'd happily lower the sales price to avoid any predatory lending. I have no intention of doing anything but a fair deal. I just thought that for me this deal is great. It gets rid of a house I don't want to deal with, it helps out a hard working, good guy buddy and it pays me 6% for 30 years. I still don't fully understand why it's not a great deal, considering most of my savings are earning much less than that. Granted I have a pretty conservative investment strategy.

Also, can anyone recommend a loan originator in my area?

Lastly, I fully trust that my lawyer will do the job right and protect me, but we talked once for less than a minute so obviously we didn't cover all the bases. If after I met with her next week she doesn't seem up to the task I have no problems going elsewhere but she has been practicing RE law for 20+ years in this area.

Thanks again.
Scott

Thanks again Bill. I really appreciate the information you've given.

Hey Bill,

Thanks for the quick reply.
I realize this is a highly unusual deal that's why I was asking for opinions.

They may or may not be able to get a loan easily because we all work in the entertainment business and have many different short term employers every year. Last year for example I had 20 different W2's and 2-1099's and I assume he will be in a similar situation this coming year as he just left a long term employment position for the greener fields of freelance. Freelancing pays a lot more if you're properly motivated and since I know most of my friends work history and know that he is a hard worker who has a IATSE local one union card in NYC, that he will certainly be able to afford the payments.

Secondly he has improved greatly the value of everywhere he has ever rented at his own expense because he likes to do fix it stuff in his downtime and this property needs some serious updating/fixing which he is capable of.

Also if I were to try and sell it outright I could probably only get maybe $90-100k for it. So in addition to the 10k+ price premium I'm looking at the potential ~$100k interest as a main motivation for making this deal. I have no worries about them walking away because I'm sure they won't and secondly if I have the deal structured right I will retain the title until it's paid in full.

I don't live there now, but I do live close by since I bought another place with cash during the downturn.

My lawyer (who I spoke to only briefly) did mention Contract for deed and due on sale, which I was already aware of, which is why I want to structure it so I can keep making the payments on the BOA mortgage and not have to pay it in full because right now I can't afford to pay off the ~75k we still owe.

I will look up sub-to(2) and do some more reading about wrap, which didn't seem to be exactly what I was thinking.

Thanks again.
Scott

Hello,

I've done a lot of looking around and have read many different posts but have not seen anything that closely resembles my situation. I'll try and lay it all out but if I miss something please feel free to ask. Thanks upfront for all your replies/thoughts.

I have a house that I'm planning on selling to some friends.
I still have a BOA mortgage w/ 21 more years on it (technically, but I know I'm ahead on that) that I plan on keeping and paying down as quickly as I can afford.
My friends have almost no money to put down and I'm planning financing them.
I have a lawyer who I've used twice in the past for traditional purchases (one bank financed, one cash) and she assures me this is not a difficult thing.

My friends have agreed to my asking price and my terms of the loan.
We are getting a small premium on the sales price of the home and are loaning them the $110,000 at 6% over 30 years.

We still owe about $75,000 of the original $91,500 BOA mortgage which is at 5.875%.

I talked to my Allstate agent and she said we'd have to switch from homeowners to a Landlord policy.

First question, does this sound like a fair deal for both parties? Mind you I'm not trying to get rich I'm just trying to strike a fair deal and get rid of a house that I just don't want to deal with anymore.

Secondly, what type of sale would be best so that we may keep the current BOA mortgage and retain possession of the property in case they fail to pay. (totally not worried about that but want to be covered, just in case).

Lastly, does that sound right about the insurance? Also should we or can we require them to carry renters insurance even if they're not renting but buying with some type of deal that keeps title until they are paid in full?

Any other advice you think I should know please feel free to share.
I'll keep reading around the forums in the mean time.

Thanks!
Scott