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All Forum Posts by: Jesse T.

Jesse T. has started 5 posts and replied 1198 times.

Post: better to rent to family or roomates

Jesse T.Posted
  • Herndon, VA
  • Posts 1,231
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In general a family is going to be more stable than a situation with 4 roommates.  

If you do end up going with roommates I would want to maximize security deposits and hold all roommates liable for the whole lease.

Even with a good group of roommates the chances of a stable group for more than a couple years is pretty low.  There are bound to be changes with at least one of the roommates in terms or relationships, job status or even buying a home by at least of the 4 roommates in that time period.

Post: Potential tenant cannot pay deposit in full

Jesse T.Posted
  • Herndon, VA
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Originally posted by @Nicole A.:

@Gwen R.

 We also have an instance where I'm very glad I was flexible with a family on the security deposit. They said they have half now and could pay the rest in 2 weeks. So I drafted up an agreement that I would accept their 50% payment and in 2 weeks (specific date), the other 50% was due. In 2 week waiting period, they understood I would still show the property and if I ended up renting to someone else, I'd refund their deposit downpayment.

They just renewed for another year with me. They always pay on time. They are truly a fantastic family that I admire. I'm very glad that I worked with them.

 But in this case you got the deposit in a month, correct?  Breaking the deposit into paychecks matches a lot of people's real world situation.  I think it where the tenant screening process is a little different than accept/reject.  The good prospect gets it split up, the weaker one can check back in 2 weeks when they have the full deposit.

Post: Potential Tenants - Real doozies!

Jesse T.Posted
  • Herndon, VA
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Originally posted by @Sarah Miller:

My Thoughts on these:

1. The mom and son make plenty of money to satisfy 3x rent.  I am a little worried though because of the mom's collections and also the son has only been at his breadwinning job for 1 month.

2. Obviously the eviction scares me, but I almost want to call them and get their side of the story.  I'm not sure why they would let an eviction go through if they could have helped.  Of course, the rent was $900 where they are so maybe they simply couldn't help.  I like the idea of guaranteed income from the disability but I don't know what to do about this one.

What do you think? Thanks!

IMO 2 is a pretty easy rejection.

1. How old are the mom's collections?  I would want to get a couple good landlord references to offset the credit issue.  Does the son have other work history?  If he has typically made $1500+ with good work history - the job is very useful in approving him.  If he has lower previous income and/or spotty work history - there is a good chance you are relying on the Mom for rent getting paid.

Originally posted by @David Miller:

thx for the replies y'all. 

to clarify, property would be the BRRR strategy (buy, renovate, rent, refinance)...so essentially a buy and hold.

 I would propose 2% to 2.5% and giving her the rental listing.  Although with the rental listing - I would make sure that she wants it and will take it seriously.

Originally posted by @Aaron Crow:
Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

Tell the seller to file for bankrupcy , that will put a hold on the foreclosure .

Wow, not something I would consider, who am I to tell the seller to file for bankruptcy?  Drastic move to be able to sell the house and save 40k in equity.

 With an agent, it is likely even less between 10 and 20K by the time you pay commission and depending on if it is the OPs reduced offer.  And that is before considering the costs of a bankruptcy attorney etc.  Just a foreclosure credit-wise is a lot easier to recover from than a bankruptcy and a near-foreclosure.

I think you may be comparing the P&I on a 15 with the full payment on a 30.  Even with the interest rate difference - the 30 should be significantly cheaper on a monthly basis.

That being said, I would probably go with the 15 with PMI(not lender paid). The advantage is the higher principal payments will get you to a point where you can cancel PMI sooner.

Does the deal work with a 3% commission?

What type of investment is it - buy and hold or flip?

If it is a flip is she the right agent to sell it?  If she is - I would give her something informal and then list with her at 7%.  If she isn't the right agent - at least give her a shot at the referral.

For buy and hold - the rental listing and management might be an opportunity for her, but you probably should give her at least a partial commission at this point.

I would not go the finder fee route(a payment directly to her) - I would either give her a commission through her brokerage or do it informally.

Happy Birthday!

One thought is if you are targeting college students as your potential tenants - you don't necessarily need a multi-family property.  A 4 bedroom/2 Ba house would house 4 tenants.  If your location and property is desirable enough - your vacancies should be similar to other properties.