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All Forum Posts by: Jesse Park

Jesse Park has started 4 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: How to flip a lead based exterior paint house?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Matt M.:

@Jesse Park

Yes and nope! I’d say 90% of houses have wood wrapped in aluminum. Once it’s done, it’s done... 

I just got a quote this morning and they told me that they remove the rot on existing wood first before they wrap. They'll also provide a  guarantee if the inside rots in the future. 

From the dollar standpoint, covering fascia with aluminum and soffit with vinyl are similar to removing lead on them. Removing lead is definitely more expensive because they'll need to be repainted.

Post: How to flip a lead based exterior paint house?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Matt M.:

@Jesse Park

I would wrap the fascia in aluminum, and do vinyl soffits. Wrap anything and everything, and then it’s maintenance free! Do the minimum with lead abatement and repainting like the columns etc.

Do you mean wrap over existing wood? Wouldn't that rot the wood underneath? 

Post: How to flip a lead based exterior paint house?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
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Originally posted by @Steve Morris:

"I have a house that has lead paint peeling off in the exterior"

Well unless they haven't repainted it since 1972 (I think that's the year), it's been encapsulated.  Usually, if you know for certain, you just disclose it unless you want to strip the house (which if it's peeling you should do).  However, then you get an issue of waste disposal.

Could be worse - Could have popcorn ceilings with asbestos.

well, the popcorn ceiling with asbestos was taken care of the first week after closing...

The paint is not encapsulated so it sounds like stripping is the right move.

Post: How to flip a lead based exterior paint house?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Mike McCarthy:

@Jesse Park find another painter.

With older houses, painters need to follow certain rules when sanding or stripping paint. It does add some prep and cleanup time, but not double!

You want to make sure you find an RRP certified painter. Most legit painters are, and they should deal with lead paint all the time.

If you’re curious, google RRP painting exterior, you’ll learn about what they have to do.

Lead paint should be handled correctly, but it’s not like you’re trying to repaint a nuclear reactor!!

 Thanks Mike, the quotes are from two different companies as each one didn't do both tasks. It sounds like I need to find a contractor who can do both! Should I also look into just replacing the trims if the wood is not in the best condition or will that cost be so high for what I am trying to do? The house is from the 60's so I'm thinking it's not a bad idea to replace them, rather than covering them up.

Post: How to flip a lead based exterior paint house?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 8

I have a house that has lead paint peeling off in the exterior. I was looking for a quote for a new paint job, and it came at $7000 for just paint and another $7000 for stripping lead off soffits and fascias. The house is brick and stucco and lead is only on wooden trims- porch column, patio roof siding, soffits, and fascias.

Is there an alternative strategy to give this home a face-lift without spending tremendous amount of money on the exterior? There's some work need to be in the house too and I don't want to spend the entire budget on paint.

Originally posted by @Steve K.:

@Jesse Park spending money unnecessarily is not getting a good deal. One of our rentals has a 35 year old furnace that’s going strong, and we also have several others 20-25 years old. Conjuring up the old adage “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”, I wound not replace a furnace unless I had to personally. I would look for a less expensive way to solve the problem such as adding window, portable, through-the-wall, or mini-split AC unit in the area you’re having trouble keeping cool, if possible.

This is the kind of advice I was looking for. I’ll see if I can hook up a line on my furnace to get the fan running on my thermostat and forget about spending $5k on AC and replacing the furnace. 

Originally posted by @Michael Peters:

Can't say I'm familiar with HVAC prices in Denver but I don't think the age of your current unit warrants that kind of investment.  Is the property 80 degrees with the unit running full?  Did you ask them to quote out a replacement or just to take a look and let you know why the property is not cooling correctly?  Did they verify you have enough refrigerant and that there are no leaks in the system?  It could be anything from the unit not being the correct tonage, the property using flexible ducting that limits air flow, partially covered vents, is the property not insulated correctly, or even a fan issue.  Sometimes even a duct cleaning can make a huge difference in airflow which only runs a few hundred dollars.  

HVAC is a pain and can be difficult unless you know it intimately yourself or have a vendor you can trust.  Just make sure to consider all your options before throwing around that kind of cash.

I currently don’t have an A/C

Originally posted by @Anson Young:

Jesse, 2k for the new furnace can be a good deal, depends on the efficiency and other bells and whistles.  The whole amount seems high to me, mainly because its retail pricing most likely.  12 years on a furnace is still REALLY young, honestly inspectors say 15 years but a well maintained furnace can easily go 25 with no issues.  I'm thrilled when I buy houses with 10-15 year old furnaces, we can get them cleaned/serviced/certified and feel good about selling that property to a new owner.  Your main benefit to getting the furnace will be the re circulation/blower feature, which could earn you back that 2k in saved utility bills over a few years.

Thank you for the reply. I got three quotes. $3000 for Goodman AC (lower quality A/C and service provider), $4800 for American standard (high quality A/C), $6800 for American standard A/C and Furnace (same company as $4800), and $7450 Rheem A/C only. Seems like $6800 is a good deal and I am getting more quotes. The furnace was inspected when I purchased the house and it's fine. I'm looking for advice from experienced homeowners out there to learn if it's worth upgrading for the bundle price. 


I am sharing utilities with the tenants (electricity, trash, water, sewer, etc). Even when I leave this home and rent it out, I would like to have tenants pay for utilities. Is this common in Denver area?

I purchased a 6bd/3.5ba home ($450k) in March, put $55k in reno, and I'm house hacking with two roommates. I'm looking to cash out refi next year.

I have a 12 year old furnace with ducting. With the summer season ramping up, 2nd floor is getting upwards of high 80's and I got some quotes for A/C. 

One company quoted me $4800 for A/C only and $6800 for A/C and furnace. That's only $2000 more for the furnace, which seems like a good deal. Upgrading from a single speed, low efficient blower to a variable speed blower also sounds like it will put less load on the system which may also increase the life of my electrical system. Another benefit is that with the new efficient blower, I can recirculate air by just having the fan on without using the A/C to cool down the house.

Question1: Should I even consider investing in an A/C to make tenants happy and raise the value of the home for refi (double benefits)?

Question2: If I do choose to get an A/C, should I also replace my 12 year old furnace (life of a furnace is 15 I believe) to take advantage of the combo deal and to get a heard start before my furnace dies?

Post: How 'nice' is your househacking home?

Jesse ParkPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 8

I just bought a house in Lakewood, Colorado for $450k with 4 bd 4 ba with 5% down payment. Mortgage is going to be around $2450. The rates are $750 per room in 3 rooms, $700 per room in 2 basement room when they are finished, and I will be living in the master.

I want to add 2 more bedroom as soon as possible, but I also want to do renovations in the kitchen, put hardwood floors, remove popcorn ceiling (asbestos), put in recessed lighting, new internal/external paint, remove a load bearing wall, and etc which a contractor said will cost around $80k (I think I can go IKEA kitchen and go cheap on other things and save $30-40k. Getting quotes from 4 contractors by this Sunday 3/8). I do have $40k saved up in cash to spend if necessary and I have family who can help me.

From a business mindset, the house is definitely livable as-is with a new internal paint job, so I can just work on adding 2 basement bedrooms for good cash flow. However, since I will be living there and I don't want to attract lower quality 'tenants' to live with, I want to make the place nicer too. How much is a reasonable amount to spend on renovating the house that I will be househacking?

I am currently renting so I have 2 months to renovate before moving in. I also thought about making the above-ground nice first so that I can move-in ASAP, and finish the basement myself while living there which can take about a year.

#Denver