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All Forum Posts by: Jeremy Bernard

Jeremy Bernard has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
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  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Rebecca E.:

Jeremy you might need a different attorney or I might not understand reverse mortgages.  Since your gma is no longer living in the house, she had 6 months and the bank takes possession.  they will offer your family to buy the house at market value or they will sit on it and eventually auction it off.  If the sale nets more than the reverse mortgage amount, your gma will get a check.  Medicaid will garnish that money to help pay the assisted living fees. I dont think they can do that in the unfortunate event of your gma passing before the house is sold, but Im not 100% on that.  Good luck in any case.

Thank you, that is valuable input.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
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  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
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Quote from @Jeremy Bernard:
Quote from @Jeremy Bernard:

My Grandma has a reverse mortgage on her house, she is no longer living in it. I don't fully understand how the reverse mortgages work, my dad at this point is about to turn the keys over to the bank. Is it worth pursuing to try and get at a discount, or because it is basically bank owned it would be just like any other bank owned property?


 An update to the reverse mortgage saga, turns out it is worth pursuing for now. I am working on getting her an updated living trust/will to avoid probate, along with finding out the current amount on the loan to start securing financing. Side note this is also going to be my first rental I think. I appreciate all the feedback and comments it motivates me and gives me items to consider. 


 I have came across a bit of a bump I'm not sure how to go about navigating. The first one is my G-ma is in an assisted living home currently and has no real assets aside from the house in question. I talked with an estate attorney and he mentioned medicaid could go after her if she sells the house, as they will eventually take over the bill for the assisted living. So at this point it is not looking possible without screwing her over.  I am open to any suggestions to look into if any of yall have something.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Jeremy Bernard:

My Grandma has a reverse mortgage on her house, she is no longer living in it. I don't fully understand how the reverse mortgages work, my dad at this point is about to turn the keys over to the bank. Is it worth pursuing to try and get at a discount, or because it is basically bank owned it would be just like any other bank owned property?


 An update to the reverse mortgage saga, turns out it is worth pursuing for now. I am working on getting her an updated living trust/will to avoid probate, along with finding out the current amount on the loan to start securing financing. Side note this is also going to be my first rental I think. I appreciate all the feedback and comments it motivates me and gives me items to consider. 

Post: tax implications on a 401k early withdrawal

Jeremy Bernard
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  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
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Quote from @Basit Siddiqi:

Things to consider

Federal Taxes
State Taxes
Your increased income may increase your AGI which may result in you not being eligible for certain deductions/credits as they are AGI based.
Your increase income may expose you now to other taxes such as the Net Investment Income Tax(NIIT).

Best of luck


 Thank you for the response. This was very helpful giving me other things to consider. The 401k withdrawal was just a backup plan. I just wanted as much information about what would happen if I were to go that route. I appreciate the info so much thank you again.

Post: tax implications on a 401k early withdrawal

Jeremy Bernard
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  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
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Quote from @Ashton Karp:

Jeremy,

Using funds from your 401k can be accomplished in different ways. I am not a tax or retirement account advisor so please consult the necessary professionals. 

You can withdraw the funds, pay the 10% penalty and then pay income taxes on the amount. You can calculate the % if you analyze which tax bracket you are in. 
You also can borrow from your 401k. You can take a loan for up to 50% of your account balance, up to 50k annually. You pay the loan back, with realistic interest, to yourself. I believe the loan does not affect your DTI either.
You can also convert your 401k into a self directed IRA and then you can use the full amount to invest in real estate, no penalties or income taxes will be paid on qualified uses of the funds. I cannot expand much on that process but know it is a good tool if your 401k is well funded.

I have a great group of CPAs I work with in my real estate business. If you want I can shoot you their info for you to have a consultation with them. 



 I would definitely be interested in talking to them. I appreciate your information, I think this is an option I was looking for. I will say using my 401k funds was sort of a back up plan to pay cash upfront.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Jeremy Bernard:

My Grandma has a reverse mortgage on her house, she is no longer living in it. I don't fully understand how the reverse mortgages work, my dad at this point is about to turn the keys over to the bank. Is it worth pursuing to try and get at a discount, or because it is basically bank owned it would be just like any other bank owned property?


Reverse mortgages are awful and shouldn't be allowed.

Read the contract. It will explain what the options are for terminating the contract. 


 Thank you, maybe I'll ask to see if I can before it's relinquished to the bank.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
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Quote from @Jaron Walling:

Reverse mortgages are the worst. Hopefully this lending practice dies with my generation. 

I've pursued two different off market properties like this and in my experience its a dead end. In both situations the family who had ownership (they didn't own s**t) had no equity because the mortgage balance wiped it out. Just finding what is owed on the properties was a headache. Both properties are distressed, sitting, and rotting away as I type this response. One of them is across the street from my house. It's a cute house, good location, good opportunity, but just sitting collecting dust. From my understanding these properties eventually end up at auction. When that happens is nearly impossible to find out unless you know someone that knows someone. 


 That was my thoughts on it as well. I was just trying to get a better understanding. Thank you.

Post: tax implications on a 401k early withdrawal

Jeremy Bernard
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  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Jeremy H.:

So you'll pay income tax - I think the bracket would be 24% plus a withdraw penalty of 10% and you'll lose the tax deduction as well. So 34% in taxes. So you withdraw $200k, you pay $68k in taxes. 

Not a very good idea in my opinion honestly

You can take a loan for 50k or 50% of the value for "free" (you'll pay back the interest to yourself)

Lots of better strategies here in my opinion

I agree not an ideal option, but I would see the return on investment would be better than what I'm currently getting. I do appreciate the feedback for sure. I was coming up with that same info.

Post: Reverse Mortgage buy from bank

Jeremy Bernard
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

My Grandma has a reverse mortgage on her house, she is no longer living in it. I don't fully understand how the reverse mortgages work, my dad at this point is about to turn the keys over to the bank. Is it worth pursuing to try and get at a discount, or because it is basically bank owned it would be just like any other bank owned property?

Post: tax implications on a 401k early withdrawal

Jeremy Bernard
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • SW Washington
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

Good day BP Family,

I've tried to search what kind of taxes I'd face with an early withdrawal from my 401k and have not really found the answer to my particular question. Just using roundish numbers, my annual salary (earned income) is about 100k gross, I'm thinking about withdrawing enough from my 401k to buy some land out right, I would withdraw about 150k, but probably closer to 200 after fees and taxes. I'm curious if I were to withdraw the money on this tax year and buy the property probably next year, or would I be better off wait a month and do it all on the same tax year? Maybe some additional info: my current plan is to redo the deck and kitchen in my current house, rent it out, buy the property, split the lot, build two houses rent one and live in the other, along with if I can put each under an LLC in some way. I know I should consult a tax advisor, I am planning to do that as well. I am just curious possible issues/benefits this may cause and or questions I should ask? Thank you all in advance, This group has been great for information and inspiration.