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All Forum Posts by: Jennifer Stammberger

Jennifer Stammberger has started 5 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Looking into Out of State Investing-What are some of the top rental markets?

Jennifer Stammberger
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Jennifer Stammberger:

Hi! I'm a new investor. I own 3 properties. One is a STR in Joshua Tree, second is a cabin near Sequoia, and the third is a vacant lot in JT that I have listed for sale. I am interested in out of state investing (long term leases) and want to learn about the best rental markets out there. Can someone give me tips on where I should start researching? Thanks :)

Read "Long-Distance Real Estate Investing" by David Greene. That book will tell you most of what you need to know.

Look up Dave Meyers posts or videos. He crunches data and regularly posts about the best markets to invest in.



 Thanks Nathan! 

Post: Looking into Out of State Investing-What are some of the top rental markets?

Jennifer Stammberger
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Texas is the best state to own real estate. Our landlord friendly laws and demand puts investors in a good position.

Good to know! I live in CA where its the opposite, tenants are extremely protected making it difficult for landlords. Thanks Elliott. 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @John Morgan:

@Jennifer Stammberger

I’ve done 3 of them and a big fan of them. Take the estimated rent and divide that by your expenses. If that number is at least 1.2 then you’re set. And these are no doc loans. They don’t need to see anything. Just your last two months bank statements. The only con is your interest rate is about 1% higher than a conventional loan.

3? Amazing! Thanks John!

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Doug Smith:
Quote from @Kristen L Garner:

Hi Jennifer! There is an entire category of loan called non conforming or non-QM. DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) falls into this category. The loan product is specifically for investment properties and is usually good for 1-10 units. You qualify based on the DSCR ratio (rental income divided by total monthly PITI payment). If that number is greater than 1.0 you will have no issues getting DSCR financing. If that number is greater than 1.25 you will start to see a nice drop in the rate. The guidelines vary slightly lender to lender and product to product. But below are some major points.

-credit should be over 660, but over 700 to get best terms

-80% LTV on single family, 75% LTV on multi family or first time investor

-6 month seasoning period to do a refi

-can close in personal name or LLC

-loan minimums are usually either $75k+ or $100k+

-need to show 6 months reserves in any combination of bank accounts, stocks, retirement accounts, etc

-rates are higher than conventional

-no taxes, income, W2, etc needed

-take 30 days to close

-pre payment penalties can be added to lower the rate

-up to 3% of purchase price can be given in seller concessions

-if purchasing as a short term rental be sure to tell your lender first (to make sure they have a product that fits)

-if purchasing a rural property be sure to tell your lender first (to make sure they have a product that fits)

 @Kristen L Garner's answer was perfect. The only thing that I could add would be that banks and DSCR lenders calculate DSCR differently. I've been both a broker and a commercial banker, so I can detail both ways of thinking.

To a DSCR Lender, they are only looking at the property and define Debt Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR) as Rental Income from the 1007 (part of the appraisal) divided by the Principle, Interest, Taxes, Insurance, and HOA. That's it. Some lenders go below a 1.0, but it gets expensive and you need experience. A 1.0X gets the deal done with most lenders with the rate and terms getting better the higher the DSCR.

Banks do a Global Cash Flow approach to DSCR. For them, they will usually use a vacancy factor...meaning they reduce the rent a bit (by 10%-25% sometimes) to account for the times the property is vacant. They also will include maintenance fees, assign a management fee (5%-10%), and other expenses. They might even look at the guarantor's other income...like from self-employment income or another job and they will usually also include other debts from the credit report(s).

I did notice one person answered earlier about a 1.25X minimum. That's likely a bank. 

Does that help add on to Kristen's answer. She obviously knows her stuff and nailed it. 


 You guys rock! Wow, thank you so much. This has been a new language to me and these responses has made it very easy to digest. 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Kristen L Garner:

Hi Jennifer! There is an entire category of loan called non conforming or non-QM. DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) falls into this category. The loan product is specifically for investment properties and is usually good for 1-10 units. You qualify based on the DSCR ratio (rental income divided by total monthly PITI payment). If that number is greater than 1.0 you will have no issues getting DSCR financing. If that number is greater than 1.25 you will start to see a nice drop in the rate. The guidelines vary slightly lender to lender and product to product. But below are some major points.

-credit should be over 660, but over 700 to get best terms

-80% LTV on single family, 75% LTV on multi family or first time investor

-6 month seasoning period to do a refi

-can close in personal name or LLC

-loan minimums are usually either $75k+ or $100k+

-need to show 6 months reserves in any combination of bank accounts, stocks, retirement accounts, etc

-rates are higher than conventional

-no taxes, income, W2, etc needed

-take 30 days to close

-pre payment penalties can be added to lower the rate

-up to 3% of purchase price can be given in seller concessions

-if purchasing as a short term rental be sure to tell your lender first (to make sure they have a product that fits)

-if purchasing a rural property be sure to tell your lender first (to make sure they have a product that fits)


 Extremely helpful info/breakdown, I appreciate it! In terms of 6 months reserves, how is that amount determined exactly? Is there a standard? Thanks again :) 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Robin Simon:
Quote from @Kevin Paulk:

@Jennifer Stammberger

Great Article written not to long ago about DSCR loans. This should help!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 Thanks Kevin - 

Full series here:

DSCR Loans: What Are They And How To Get The Best Terms

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

DSCR Loans: How To Use Pro Strategies To Save More And Make More

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Multifamily DSCR Loans: A New High-Impact Loan Option For Real Estate Investors?

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 Thanks Robin! 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Kevin Paulk:

@Jennifer Stammberger

Great Article written not to long ago about DSCR loans. This should help!

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 Thanks Kevin! 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Jennifer Stammberger

The lender takes the net operating income from the asset and divides it by the debt service (cost of loan payments)

This number should be 1.25 or greater

What people forget to mention about these is many come with personal guarantees so if the asset does underperform (which I just go a tape of $25M distressed DSCR loans) the lender can go after you and in some instances cause the borrower to file bankruptcy

What I am getting at is, just because they only look at the asset does not reduce your risk.


 Yes, of course, makes sense! Thank you so much for the response Chris!! 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

It is a DSCR loan. These loans essentially qualify the investment, not the Investor. And as long as rents coming in is equal to, or more than your monthly payments to the bank, and they will adjust your LTV to be able to make this possible, they will lend the money.


 Thank you so much Elliott! 

Post: What exactly is a DSR loan?

Jennifer Stammberger
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 34

David Greene mentioned a DSR loan in one of his recent youtube videos which I've never heard of. If I understood it correctly-it's simply a loan that does not use your W2 to qualify but the lender would look at the property's cash flow it's supposed to generate & if the numbers cover the mortgage, that loan would be approved?! Can someone clarify for me? This sounds way too good to be true lol.Thanks :)